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SaberProductions
Who else thinks he's going to have to choose between the act and Claire? Do you think he will give up Angela?

oh, if a mod sees this, can you fix the title? I meant "comfortable."
EvolutionisNear
We never really know with Noah...
Jumper
I think Noah knows that this plan is a good one, but it's going the wrong way. Matt, Peter, Mohinder, everyone who is not evil can help, but Danko and Nathan want to capture everyone which is a bad idea. He is with Angela, and we still dont know her point of view on this.
Mask
I thought Angela's PoV was basically "Nathan is screwed". Though that doesn't necessarily mean she's against it. But I truly believe her when she says she wants it all to be over.

But, like Noah, we never truly know with her, either.
Citizen
I always said that a Noah sacrifice death would be highly appreciated by me, so I can see this happening. Noah is morally gray at best.
prander
Awesome line! Loved it.

It sounds like he's already chosen sides. It sounds like Angela has, too. They've chosen the EH fugitives.
themightytruk
Noah's on his own side. He's got his own plan and believes that Nathan and Danko's respective ideas are both wrong. He made this pretty clear. I don't think he's totally on the fugitives side either in that he sees a need to police dangerous people with powers, but he doesn't want all specials captured, killed, or whatnot. I think he ultimately wants to shift the operation to his way somehow or end it completely somehow.
Begemot Geroi
I think he was just feeding Danko a load of bull, honestly. He's still very much a family man -- don't really think he's being that morally gray here.
prander
He made it clear that he's ultimately not serving Danko or Nathan, or either of their respective ideas (Danko's being more extreme and less "human").

He's going to lie, put himself out there and play along, make the "morally gray" decisions he needs to as the situations necessitate to make sure neither of them are ultimately able to see their ideas come to fruition.

I also think he's not on the side of all EH's, but he knows most don't deserve what Nathan and Danko want for them. It's clear he's on the side of the (these, main characters) fugitive EHs... He knows them, knows they're not really dangerous and knows they don't deserve what Nathan and Danko want for them.
raissad
The timeline is too convenient. Things blow up at home. Noah gets "sloppy" and interrogated to build cover with Danko. Does that mean the marital problems were faked for Claire, as well as Danko, because Noah and Sandra don't believe she can lie well enough? Or are the marital problems real and Noah's just taking advantage? It could go either way, but I'd love for all the Bennets to be in on it. It would be great character development for the family as a whole.
DoctorClaude
Noah's a bamf. He'll never stop being a bamf.

But he suffers from the Odysseus curse. He must always taste adventure. After all, there's only so many crossword puzzles.

His allegiances lie with who he sees as right, and that could mean on both sides of the board. Noah Bennet is one of the few characters that has the power to think independently, and the only person he seems to respect is Mama Petrelli. However, he would toss her to the wayside if needed.

...because he's a bamf.
Hoopla2
Makes you wonder what future Angela has seen.
bruno6969
Angela + Noah = REBEL!
prander
QUOTE (bruno6969 @ Feb 24 2009, 09:53 AM) *
Angela + Noah = REBEL!

Rebel is looking less like he/she/it consists of Noah to me. I think he's got his own agenda, that of playing along with Danko and Nathan to do his part in order to make sure they both ultimately fail in their objectives. Thus, I don't think he can go around monitoring these EHs, texting them and so on.

I could possibly see it being Angela, perhaps among others, especially Micah.
bruno6969
QUOTE (prander @ Feb 24 2009, 08:25 AM) *
Rebel is looking less like he/she/it consists of Noah to me. I think he's got his own agenda, that of playing along with Danko and Nathan to do his part in order to make sure they both ultimately fail in their objectives. Thus, I don't think he can go around monitoring these EHs, texting them and so on.

I could possibly see it being Angela, perhaps among others, especially Micah.


The second scene of Angela and Noah on the bench together just made me think they're working together. Noah gives inside info to Angela, who then informs Micah, he then warns who needs to be warned.
BluEyedGrl105
QUOTE (raissad @ Feb 23 2009, 11:10 PM) *
Or are the marital problems real and Noah's just taking advantage? It could go either way, but I'd love for all the Bennets to be in on it. It would be great character development for the family as a whole.


I think Noah was either going to go to the bar anyway as a trap or it was a spur of the moment plan when he realized Mo, Matt and Peter were trying to get him. I think the Bennet's marital issues are very real.
PeterForAll
Best line of the episode (and possibly all of Heroes) ever!

I've learnt that I can't keep up with the Heroes Writers, they are way too genius for my miniscule mind so I'm really sitting tight for the crazy ride that will be finding out what Noah + Angela are up to/what they have in mind. Clearly they see good and bad heroes, and they're going along with this Nathan + US government program thing for a reason... they're trying to use this rounding up of heroes to do something, I just can't figure out what.
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