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longhorn1219
I think Peter was just lying to Matt (or whoever it was he told) that he can only hold onto one ability at a time to maintain a strategic advantage and because he didn't know who he could trust.

1.) They said when they were monitoring him in Noah's facility they lost the visual, yet he was still in there when they raided (invisibility).

2.) Unlike Matt, Daphne, or anyone else involved in the scuffles by the plane we didnt see him get hurt (Maybe Mohinder's power helps him avoid injury)

3.) He must have touched Matt when he grabbed him and flew away yet they didn't fall out of the sky. During the plane he touched people through there clothes and still absorbed there power.

4.) He landed on Noah's car quite forcefully damaging it and a.) Was not hurt and b.) seemed to be using Mohinders strength ability because he semeed to easily get Noah inside and damage the car severley.
qasrose
QUOTE (longhorn1219 @ Feb 24 2009, 04:05 AM) *
I think Peter was just lying to Matt (or whoever it was he told) that he can only hold onto one ability at a time to maintain a strategic advantage and because he didn't know who he could trust.

1.) They said when they were monitoring him in Noah's facility they lost the visual, yet he was still in there when they raided (invisibility).

2.) Unlike Matt, Daphne, or anyone else involved in the scuffles by the plane we didnt see him get hurt (Maybe Mohinder's power helps him avoid injury)

3.) He must have touched Matt when he grabbed him and flew away yet they didn't fall out of the sky. During the plane he touched people through there clothes and still absorbed there power.

4.) He landed on Noah's car quite forcefully damaging it and a.) Was not hurt and b.) seemed to be using Mohinders strength ability because he semeed to easily get Noah inside and damage the car severley.



Peter told Tracy when he was robbing the guy's Gun.

I think you might be on to something here, because when Peters Dad took his power away
I think Peter absorbed his fathers ability, so their for he can still absorb. And looking back Peter did land his foot on the glass of the car window pretty hard indeed. So who knows.
wildtripz
QUOTE (qasrose @ Feb 24 2009, 10:34 PM) *
Peter told Tracy when he was robbing the guy's Gun.

I think you might be on to something here, because when Peters Dad took his power away
I think Peter absorbed his fathers ability, so their for he can still absorb. And looking back Peter did land his foot on the glass of the car window pretty hard indeed. So who knows.


I'm not too sure about that, he had to re-absorb Nathan's power before he could fly away.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Peter's power is voluntary, as in he CAN absorb another's power when touching them, but by choice. This is why he didn't drop from the sky while holding Matt.
Sayonara
QUOTE (longhorn1219 @ Feb 24 2009, 12:05 PM) *
I think Peter was just lying to Matt (or whoever it was he told) that he can only hold onto one ability at a time to maintain a strategic advantage and because he didn't know who he could trust.

1.) They said when they were monitoring him in Noah's facility they lost the visual, yet he was still in there when they raided (invisibility).

2.) Unlike Matt, Daphne, or anyone else involved in the scuffles by the plane we didnt see him get hurt (Maybe Mohinder's power helps him avoid injury)

3.) He must have touched Matt when he grabbed him and flew away yet they didn't fall out of the sky. During the plane he touched people through there clothes and still absorbed there power.

4.) He landed on Noah's car quite forcefully damaging it and a.) Was not hurt and b.) seemed to be using Mohinders strength ability because he semeed to easily get Noah inside and damage the car severley.


1. There was a single camera. He was hiding round the corner and lobbed a flashbang when they opened the door then he flew out. The only mystery is how he knew they were coming..

2. No one had particularly obvious injuries from what I saw after the plane crash...

3. He seems to at least have some control over when he absorbs powers, rather than just when he initially touches them (apart from Tracy, when he was in a fight)

4. I expect this was mostly for visual awesomeness rather than super strength. He was flying fast no doubt and it would have some impact force on the windshield. What do you mean he easily got Noah inside?

The most obvious evidence that he can only (at least at the moment) hold onto one power at a time is the fact that when he had Nathan at gun point he re-absorbed flight (you can see it clearly glow) just before he flew off. He wouldn't need to do that if he still had it.

Peace
darkcervantes
QUOTE (wildtripz @ Feb 24 2009, 07:42 AM) *
I'm not too sure about that, he had to re-absorb Nathan's power before he could fly away.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Peter's power is voluntary, as in he CAN absorb another's power when touching them, but by choice. This is why he didn't drop from the sky while holding Matt.



as much as i'd love for Peter to have multiple abilities again, I think wildtripz is right...he did have to re-absorb Nathan's ability and he seems to hage a handle on absorbing whatever ability he wants

maybe in time he can have multiple abilities, but I think for now (to make the odds worse for the fugitives and more challenging) they have him with just one power at a time
GoldSeven
QUOTE
2.) Unlike Matt, Daphne, or anyone else involved in the scuffles by the plane we didnt see him get hurt (Maybe Mohinder's power helps him avoid injury)


We can definitely rule that one out - he had a cut on his forehead.
feral
QUOTE (longhorn1219 @ Feb 24 2009, 04:05 AM) *
4.) He landed on Noah's car quite forcefully damaging it and a.) Was not hurt and b.) seemed to be using Mohinders strength ability because he semeed to easily get Noah inside and damage the car severley.


QUOTE (Sayonara @ Feb 24 2009, 05:33 AM) *
4. I expect this was mostly for visual awesomeness rather than super strength. He was flying fast no doubt and it would have some impact force on the windshield. What do you mean he easily got Noah inside?


Noah is a badass normal trained to take down people with abilities and assuming Peter can only fly at the moment, he did easily recapture Noah. I don't think he has the same level of experience in hand to hand (w/out offensive powers) combat that Noah has... (consider exhibit A the curb stomp battle with Sylar and Elle during the eclipse).

Though there could be another explanation of why it was so easy:
A. Noah was drugged and...
B. Bennet knew that they were being stupid and the goon squad was already on its way.

Also both Peter and Nathan have used the flight ability to do super kicks, punches, lunges, etc before. (i.e. Nathan used it on Samedi, Peter used it on Sylar)
fernajen
QUOTE (feral @ Feb 24 2009, 01:45 PM) *
Noah is a badass normal trained to take down people with abilities and assuming Peter can only fly at the moment, he did easily recapture Noah. I don't think he has the same level of experience in hand to hand (w/out offensive powers) combat that Noah has... (consider exhibit A the curb stomp battle with Sylar and Elle during the eclipse).

Though there could be another explanation of why it was so easy:
A. Noah was drugged and...
B. Bennet knew that they were being stupid and the goon squad was already on its way.


I have a better explanation as to why it was so easy. Peter had a gun, Noah didn't.
rossie1980
QUOTE (fernajen @ Feb 24 2009, 12:02 PM) *
I have a better explanation as to why it was so easy. Peter had a gun, Noah didn't.

I have a better one that fits the show.......no one but Tracy and Peter know that he can hold onto only one power. Nathan asked him how many he had and we can only assume that the rest still believe him to have the same ability. HRG is a very strategic man and Peter was holding all the cards because HRG was ignorant of Peter's power problem.
fernajen
QUOTE (rossie1980 @ Feb 24 2009, 05:51 PM) *
I have a better one that fits the show.....no one but Tracy and Peter know that he can hold onto only one power. Nathan asked him how many he had and we can only assume that the rest still believe him to have the same ability. HRG is a very strategic man and Peter was holding all the cards because HRG was ignorant of Peter's power problem.



That's a good point. thumbsup.gif
Sifr
I personally think that Peter getting an synth ability just kickstarted his own latent ability once more, so he is able to asborb more than one ability at once... he's just lost the focus, as it were, like he was in Season 1, he can't handle having multiple abilities at once... yet.
Azure Trayl
QUOTE (Sifr @ Feb 24 2009, 05:38 PM) *
I personally think that Peter getting an synth ability just kickstarted his own latent ability once more, so he is able to asborb more than one ability at once... he's just lost the focus, as it were, like he was in Season 1, he can't handle having multiple abilities at once... yet.



I'm with Sifr on this one, I think that Peter's power could be on the verge of evolving just like Matt's powers are. Perhaps what the producers were setting to do is set Peter's power back to zero and start all over, only this time instead of just picking up any power from a powered individual in the area, he actually has to make physical contact to keep it.

If you recall in season 1, Claude explained to Peter that he needs to channel what he feels from the person he took said power from to activate it within himself, perhaps this is new version of his power takes away that need and all he has to do is call up any power a-la-Rolodex style. Besides, we still need someone on Sylar's level to keep around in case Sylar turns his attention to other folks and needs to be beaten silly.
ColorMeToxic
This is where Peter's one ability at a time thing troubles me.

I miss old Peter.

Someone DOES need to be on Sylar's level.

I really hope this gets fixed soon.
bruno6969
QUOTE (qasrose @ Feb 24 2009, 04:34 AM) *
Peter told Tracy when he was robbing the guy's Gun.

I think you might be on to something here, because when Peters Dad took his power away
I think Peter absorbed his fathers ability, so their for he can still absorb. And looking back Peter did land his foot on the glass of the car window pretty hard indeed. So who knows.


Pete DID absorb Dad's ability. Too bad Dad stole it right back. As far as landing hard on windshield, he was flying. Pete landed that hard to let Noah know that he wasn't going anywhere. Plus, I thought the writers went out of their way this entire episode to show that Pete could only fly.
Synch
QUOTE (qasrose @ Feb 24 2009, 06:34 AM) *
when Peters Dad took his power away
I think Peter absorbed his fathers ability


Nope.
Because, if he was using his Dad's touch-based ability, he would be stealing abilities. And we've been clearly shown that the people he (Peter) takes abilities from can still use theirs.
override
QUOTE (feral @ Feb 24 2009, 10:45 AM) *
Noah is a badass normal trained to take down people with abilities and assuming Peter can only fly at the moment, he did easily recapture Noah. I don't think he has the same level of experience in hand to hand (w/out offensive powers) combat that Noah has... (consider exhibit A the curb stomp battle with Sylar and Elle during the eclipse).

Though there could be another explanation of why it was so easy:
A. Noah was drugged and...
B. Bennet knew that they were being stupid and the goon squad was already on its way.

C. Matt, and Mohinder were also in the parking lot looking for him. And Peter was the one who came out of nowhere(had a gun). He could of yelled out to the others. I don't care how badass Bennet is, but there were 3 of them. One has super strength, the other able to read, and control minds, and the other can fly, and had a gun.

During the eclipse they had lost their powers, HRG had guns, and knew where they were, and is trained in that sort of stuff(had a big advantage over them).
shader2099
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 2 2009, 03:28 AM) *
Nope.
Because, if he was using his Dad's touch-based ability, he would be stealing abilities. And we've been clearly shown that the people he (Peter) takes abilities from can still use theirs.

Personally I don't think Peter has Arthur's ability (without the formula, power theft would give Peter too much power) but we don't know what Arthur could do. It's not impossible that Arthur:
-could replicate but chose to steal Adam's and Peter's abilities and after aquiring EM there was never a need to replicate.
-never knew he could replicate without stealing.
-manifested more evolved than Peter for some reason.

On a sidenote, even if Arthur could not replicate, it's still possible that Peter absorbed Arthur's ability and Arthur's hug left something of it (due to some "immunity" to itself and may even have made Peter completely immune if he had mimicked it before the hug). This remnant lies latent in Peter until he injects the formula and manifests Ability Replication which has some obvious traits of both EM and Arthur's ability. If it is one or the other or some mix of both is left to us to speculate about by the writers.
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