Zensu14
Mar 2 2009, 07:02 PM
So, anybody notice Angela's expressions when Nathan was talking to her about Rebel?
Very suspicious in my book.
MikeMc
Mar 2 2009, 07:05 PM
I agree. She knows a lot more about everything that's going on than we all know.
However, I LOVED her comment... "I don't know anything about computers." lol... cracked me up. I love her so much.
revel911
Mar 2 2009, 07:06 PM
Micah seems to be the only logical choice, at least since it deals with computers..
rayne
Mar 2 2009, 07:06 PM
rebel is either workin 4 angela or angela seen who rebel is from her dreams.
SuperT
Mar 2 2009, 07:06 PM
Tonight pretty sold me 100% to the fact that Micah is Rebel. There is just no way anyone else is has the ability to do all that we saw tonight. He may be working with someone else, but I believe he's doing all the techno work and sending out the text messages to everyone.
MewtRandell
Mar 2 2009, 07:07 PM
I think Rebel might be more than just one person, kind of like Anonymous, and Angela's probably involved in it.
MikeMc
Mar 2 2009, 07:09 PM
Yeah, I agree Angela's inolved.
And I would love if Micah came back. He just dropped off the map with no explanation, so to see him return with a legit story would be nice. Oooh! And Molly could be helping him. You know, remote viewing where everyone is! It's perfect!! Those two are the perfect "couple", haha...
Brennan
Mar 2 2009, 07:18 PM
Yea, Angela has a role to play in it all. Even if she's just seen it, she knows whats going down.
Also, it pretty much has to be Micah. It's really the only thing that makes sense. The whole Rebel thing is pretty awesome. I just hope they don't screw it up!

J/K
MikeMc
Mar 2 2009, 07:20 PM
Well, my theories: either Micah/Molly tag-team (with probably someone guiding them... they are only children), or Hana/Drucker tag-team (probably not this one, though... but I'd still like to know what happened to them...

)
wolfbro
Mar 2 2009, 07:24 PM
QUOTE (MikeMc @ Mar 2 2009, 07:09 PM)

Yeah, I agree Angela's inolved.
And I would love if Micah came back. He just dropped off the map with no explanation, so to see him return with a legit story would be nice. Oooh! And Molly could be helping him. You know, remote viewing where everyone is! It's perfect! Those two are the perfect "couple", haha...
I agree. With Angela providing direction and resources, Micah covering the tech side and Molly pinpointing where the powered folks (and the bad guys too, perhaps), they would make for a formidable team. All that would be missing is the muscle to deal with the inevitable physical confrontations.
mgrman5
Mar 2 2009, 07:24 PM
QUOTE (SuperT @ Mar 2 2009, 07:06 PM)

Tonight pretty sold me 100% to the fact that Micah is Rebel. There is just no way anyone else is has the ability to do all that we saw tonight. He may be working with someone else, but I believe he's doing all the techno work and sending out the text messages to everyone.
Hana Gitlmen might be able to hack a computer, it could be possible, but it is probably micah i hope
paigequinto
Mar 2 2009, 07:26 PM
It MUST be Micah. I knew it from the istory, and I'm even more convinced now. He's the only one who could hack into the computers like that.
Of course, Angela has some kind of hand in it. She DID seem very suspicious.
EDIT: and I would be very very happy if they brought Micah back =]
DoctorClaude
Mar 2 2009, 07:32 PM
Micah, Angela or Noah.
Those are the three I think are most likely, in descending order of likeliness.
rossie1980
Mar 2 2009, 07:42 PM
I had stated before that I thought Angela was using Micah for the whole Rebel thing and in my opinion this episode just reinforced that idea.
ChicagoCubz
Mar 2 2009, 07:44 PM
I'm 99% sure it's Micah.
Angela wouldn't be able to send the random messages and things the way Rebel has been doing.
Hana could, but it wouldn't make sense for it to be her. If you read the GN's you know that her body is gone and her mind has been uploaded to the net. For people who don't they'd have no clue what's going on.
paigequinto
Mar 2 2009, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (ChicagoCubz @ Mar 2 2009, 10:44 PM)

I'm 99% sure it's Micah.
Angela wouldn't be able to send the random messages and things the way Rebel has been doing.
Hana could, but it wouldn't make sense for it to be her. If you read the GN's you know that her body is gone and her mind has been uploaded to the net. For people who don't they'd have no clue what's going on.
yeah, a lot of the viewers have only seen hana in one episode in season 1 and probably would have totally forgotten about her by now.
hollylime
Mar 2 2009, 07:51 PM
I think if Angela does know something about, it isn't her, she may just be helping them. I think it's got to be someone with some kind of computer power, or even possibly Micah.
tazmania
Mar 2 2009, 08:12 PM
it's obviously micah. how do you think someone can hack computers, play around with electricity and text message everyone? it's clearly him.
whether it's him along with someone else i don't know but he's involved somehow
cowgirlhero
Mar 2 2009, 08:14 PM
I think it's someone on the inside, that has knowledge of Danko's operation. How else could Rebel know when Danko's men were on the way or Claire was successful at helping a special escape? Maybe it's Noah, or even Nathan.
Visitor27
Mar 2 2009, 08:18 PM
QUOTE (MikeMc @ Mar 2 2009, 07:05 PM)

I agree. She knows a lot more about everything that's going on than we all know.
However, I LOVED her comment... "I don't know anything about computers." lol... cracked me up. I love her so much.
I agree.
QUOTE (MewtRandell @ Mar 2 2009, 07:07 PM)

I think Rebel might be more than just one person, kind of like Anonymous, and Angela's probably involved in it.
Yeah, it really seems like maybe Mich, but maybe he's working with Angela.
Time4milkjr
Mar 2 2009, 08:19 PM
QUOTE (tazmania @ Mar 2 2009, 09:12 PM)

it's obviously micah. how do you think someone can hack computers, play around with electricity and text message everyone? it's clearly him.
whether it's him along with someone else i don't know but he's involved somehow
I just am sittin' here think of a weird, crazy random idea.. What if it is Micah? LOL no I have more, what if Hiro from the future has that crazy timeline like he had from season one in the future, and is trying to find others with abilities that are essential to saving the world again and with a list of known Heroes that coulda saved the world, goes back to modern day finds Micah and gives him the detailed list and explains that it is incredibly vital that noone on that list is caught or rounded up.
tazmania
Mar 2 2009, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (cowgirlhero @ Mar 2 2009, 08:14 PM)

I think it's someone on the inside, that has knowledge of Danko's operation. How else could Rebel know when Danko's men were on the way or Claire was successful at helping a special escape? Maybe it's Noah, or even Nathan.
the camera's all over the place. remember micah can control all that stuff
MewtRandell
Mar 2 2009, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (cowgirlhero @ Mar 2 2009, 11:14 PM)

I think it's someone on the inside, that has knowledge of Danko's operation. How else could Rebel know when Danko's men were on the way or Claire was successful at helping a special escape? Maybe it's Noah, or even Nathan.
Well, we did see Rachel Mills tonight, and we know from the webisodes that Angela knows about her. And from last week's episode we also know that Noah and Angela are up to something.
LadyT
Mar 2 2009, 08:28 PM
Has there been a theory suggested about a "rebel" not necessarily being one person in particular, but a name used by a group of people who have formed a resistance? I'm working on a theory that there are multiple people involved, working together to aid the targeted heroes/specials, as well as potentially rebel or revolt against the government program Nathan has been running. It's been suggested dozens of times that Micah is involved. I think it's pretty irrefutable that he would be the one to manipulate computers and cell phones to send messages anonymously. I'm also pretty certain that Angela would have been the one to organize the group. She has the files and access to all the information she would need to find the people to help her. Additionally, I am starting to really believe that Noah could be working as a part of this as well. I started working on that idea after watching "Cold Wars." The meetings between Noah and Angela on the park bench seemed to carry more than just the obvious. And then in "Exposed," Noah did what he could to warn Peter to run away. I think that his long history with Angela and his being Claire's father prove his loyalty to protecting the safety of the specials who are not dangerous. And in any kind of secret resistance operative, it can only help to have someone to infiltrate the opposing forces. Noah has a very specific set of skills that make him a desirable recruit for the program Nathan is running, but we know that Noah does not want anything bad to happen to Claire, Peter, Matt, Mohinder, etc. As for other people who may be involved, I'd like to consider Monica. There hasn't been much to suggest it, except for the fact that she was so excited to have her abilities and to become a superhero. And if Micah is involved, I think it would stand to reason that she would be as well. They were living together, last we saw. But that's just speculation, really.
Or am i just feeling too much of the World War II vibe that's going on?
themightytruk
Mar 2 2009, 09:25 PM
Yeah, definitely seems like Angela's connected to Rebel in some way, knows more than she let on. But if so, I doubt she's alone. I sense a team-up.
Leek
Mar 2 2009, 09:38 PM
As was found on Hana's old site:
"HG gone If you would be alone without help hold tight fear the government Email wireless@samantha48616e61.com someone can help Don't worry. "
I still believe it is Micah. Micah is the only one who knew the whole Drucker/Hana story line, which would explain the usage of liberation and rebellion themes. He also would know of all the websites, is very intelligent, and clearly has the capabilities.
Zensu14
Mar 2 2009, 09:40 PM
I think Micah's more involved than I originally thought. Possibly Molly too if she's not where Mohinder had sent her anymore (forgot where that was). But I still think Angela's part of it.
Just the expression on her face when Nathan was talking to her about it confirmed for me that she's involved.
conspiracytheory
Mar 2 2009, 10:01 PM
I really, really hope it's either Micah or Hana. If we get another lame new character I'm gonna blow my brains out.
Leek
Mar 2 2009, 10:03 PM
QUOTE (conspiracytheory @ Mar 3 2009, 01:01 AM)

I really, really hope it's either Micah or Hana. If we get another lame new character I'm gonna blow my brains out.
"HG gone If you would be alone without help hold tight fear the government Email wireless@samantha48616e61.com someone can help Don't worry. "
I love the idea of a group of Heroes being behind Rebel
Micah is a definite obvious choice, Molly could be too.......i'd like to think the Haitian and other former agents being part of it too, but i have doubts so many people could keep a secret like that
Aetherus
Mar 2 2009, 10:15 PM
It's got to be Micah and Molly working with Angela. How would Micah know to instruct Ando and Hiro to save Matt , especially when Matt didn't need saving at the time they received the FAX? Angela must have dreamt Matt's predicament, instructed Molly to locate Ando and Hiro, then instructed Micah to send the FAX message.
Bergey
Mar 2 2009, 10:17 PM
Micah is obviously involved on the tech side, and Angela seems to be involved somehow too.. but Rebel knowing where to contact Peter and Matt makes me wonder if Molly Walker is involved somehow too.
Raekon
Mar 2 2009, 11:40 PM
I already said in other threads that it must be a group of people like in the evedrops case. was.

In my opinion:
- Angela = precognition and knowledge/pool of information
- Micah = Tech side
- Molly = Locator
- Noah/Rachel = Muscles + Information Gathering.
- Leona maybe?
theronkinator
Mar 3 2009, 04:01 AM
I want Hana to be involved somehow.
RiddlerHanjinome
Mar 3 2009, 05:26 AM
QUOTE (SuperT @ Mar 2 2009, 07:06 PM)

Tonight pretty sold me 100% to the fact that Micah is Rebel. There is just no way anyone else is has the ability to do all that we saw tonight. He may be working with someone else, but I believe he's doing all the techno work and sending out the text messages to everyone.
QUOTE (Brennan @ Mar 2 2009, 07:18 PM)

Yea, Angela has a role to play in it all. Even if she's just seen it, she knows whats going down.
Also, it pretty much has to be Micah. It's really the only thing that makes sense. The whole Rebel thing is pretty awesome. I just hope they don't screw it up!

J/K
While I do think that there's a good chance Micah is involved, I also want to lean away from the idea. Angela and Micah were also the chief suspects for the identity of Evsdropr, for mostly the same reasons, and we were proven wrong, shown that it was a newer character that we'd been led to believe was mostly minor.
My other option for Rebel is someone on the inside of Danko's operation, possibly an as-yet-unintroduced character. Personally, I'd hope for this. I don't see Micah as dumb enough to go along with someone he doesn't know (Angela) to do this sort of thing, and I also don't think he would learn of the government thing and decide to take it upon himself on a purely solo basis.
Begemot Geroi
Mar 3 2009, 06:10 AM
QUOTE (MewtRandell @ Mar 2 2009, 10:07 PM)

I think Rebel might be more than just one person, kind of like Anonymous, and Angela's probably involved in it.
Rebel = Heroes meme
Pretty soon they're going to start attacking scientologists and charging thousands of pizzas to the homes of known cat abusers.
waiheke
Mar 3 2009, 06:15 AM
i gotta admit that as i watch i do keeping thinking it is micah but he does seem too aware off too many things so that throws me off some
RubberDucky
Mar 3 2009, 06:27 AM
did I hear it correctly that REBEL was hacking into the network at Building 23? I think that one of Danko's analysts said it just before we saw Peter and Parkman in the computer room. I doubt that these two would be the ones doing the hacking. Also later when Rebel tells Peter they have 30 seconds...blah blah blah...we know how that ends.
so the question I have is about the timing of REBEL getting into the network. I mean it was REBEL who told them to go there, but the timing was perfect, which lends itself to involving someone either tracking their locations (Molly) or viewing them on a camera (Micah).
as for a random theory - how about someone from the future helping the situation...we have seen that you cannot change it yourself (ie butterflies), but can you guide someone along the way to making their own choices (ie string theory)?
Azure Trayl
Mar 3 2009, 06:54 AM

Based on this little chitchat, I'd have to think it's both of them working together. I had to moved over a dialog box to accommodate for the size.
Something else that had me thinking about the previous episode. If you recall, Peter was being watched through the camera while in Noah's storage unit. He didn't seem to know the camera was there, yet when the military unit was closing in it was assumed that Peter would not know. Now if you remember, Micah can have a machine do anything he wants. So it goes without saying that perhaps with intel and camera feed provided by Hana he turned off the lights and camera in that unit and Peter only became aware of a possible strike when the lights went out.
As for this episode, Micah's ability can easily get through a firewall as we all remember that it is somewhat difficult for Hana to break through them as evident in a previous GN. I digress, Together they took control of Building 26's computer network to help Peter and Matt.
The possibility of Molly being part of this team could be true, I only think this is half true because she would know where these people are, but doesn't she need to know their name over something specific? Either way, she would know the location of Matt and Peter and others given info from the other two.
I'd be totally surprised if it turns out to be someone else completely.
SuperT
Mar 3 2009, 07:03 AM
QUOTE
but doesn't she need to know their name over something specific?
All information we know about Molly's powers are that she only needs to know their name, which can be hacked through the government files at being held at Building 26.
RiddlerHanjinome
Mar 3 2009, 07:07 AM
I'm pretty sure Molly would have to know what the person looks like. Have we ever seen her look for someone that she doesn't know what they look like?
SuperT
Mar 3 2009, 07:29 AM
She was able to find Peter back in the season one finale and she had never seen him before then.
RiddlerHanjinome
Mar 3 2009, 07:41 AM
That's true. And one of those things I dislike because they never refer to/show it again in the series, yet it affects the characters greatly.
moshaw
Mar 3 2009, 09:45 AM
mrbarbasol
Mar 3 2009, 10:30 AM
That's too cool!!
Alessandra
Mar 3 2009, 11:23 AM
This is what I think after re-watching the episode ::QUOTE (wolfbro @ Mar 2 2009, 08:24 PM)

With Angela providing direction and resources.
Micah covering the tech side.
Molly pinpointing where the powered folks (and the bad guys too, perhaps), they would make for a formidable team. All that would be missing is the muscle to deal with the inevitable physical confrontations.
rossie1980
Mar 3 2009, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (Zensu14 @ Mar 2 2009, 07:02 PM)

So, anybody notice Angela's expressions when Nathan was talking to her about Rebel?
Very suspicious in my book.
I just read an article on CRD by the writers of Heroes. In the article they were asked
if Micah was going to be returning this season and they replied.....yes in the next few episodes. I really don't like this but I do think it means that he is either Rebel or he is working with Rebel
katlas77
Mar 3 2009, 01:54 PM
Molly can find people without knowing them, IE: Maya's brother.
Sending Doyle to Claire: souunds like something more a kid would do without knowing anything about Doyle's history with the family.
GoldSeven
Mar 3 2009, 02:12 PM
I'm in the "Micah and Angela" boat. Micah is the only one we know who could pull off this whole computer stuff. He doesn't have the perspective to pull off the rest, though. That's Angela's handwriting all over it.
Either that, or someone we don't know.
Or Lyle!
Hawkdaddy
Mar 3 2009, 04:13 PM
I think it's Noah.
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