Alright...I'm a tad confused here. It seems to be that we saw Sylar's bio-dad use the finger swipe move on his mom.


How...how is that possible? Sylar got TK from Brian Davis...are they suggesting that the "Lazer finger" is an actual power in its own? I don't like that one bit.


What do you guys think of what we saw? Could it be instead perhaps that Sylar only kills the way he does BECAUSE of that repressed memory? Discuss!

It was TK.

its fine whatever ability it is.

I think Papa Gray has Telekinesis also, and that's why Sylar hung onto that power after the Shanti virus ordeal.

As for the head slice similarity...I find that interesting, even if just a coincidence.

Well, I can tell you that for certain that Sylar got TK from Brian Davis.

As for Sylar's father, however, it seems like the same ability, TK. Sylar's father just didn't drag it out like Sylar does, it was juat a quick swipe it seemed.

Yeah, to me it just seemed real sloppy and quick as opposed to Sylar who is fine and meticulous about it. Could be a reference to his personality.

Maybe Sylar's dad DID drag it out, we don't know yet! From someone else than Brian, of course (or maybe from Brian? Maybe he's a kind of Empath? lol). Anyway, he has TK apparently. We'll just wait and see if that's his only power or not, or if it's somewhat different than Sylar's TK.

I don't think it's hard to believe that if Sylar's dad is JUST LIKE HIM - he somehow found someone with TK and took the power.

But so is Brian Davis just pointless? He jsut happaned to have TK and was only used as a victum?

I think he has a Sylar/Peter/Arthur type power.

I think too early to tell. It could be like a Arthur and Peter, or it could just be TK. It doesn't sway in either way more than it does the other.

If anyone is confused, I'm putting my entire theory on the table now:

Papa Gray has TK. Brian Davis has TK. Sylar has Intuitive Aptitude. Sylar gained the power through Brian Davis, but retained it due to his connections to his father, be it genetically or emotionally, myself opting more towards the latter, because he watched his own mother get Sylar'd...err...Papa Gray'd.

He has power absorbsion or TK def

I like the good doctor's theory.

I agree
as far as we've seen Sylar's daddy has the base ability of TK
and sylar was an empath. who obtained it throuhg Brian
i agree that maybe because of this repressed memory he was able to hang on to his TK

Yeah, this was a bit crazy to see and took me by surprise. It doesn't seem unlikely to me that someone in the past generation of specials had telekinesis. Maybe Samson just had telekinesis and uses it to kill that way. Or maybe Samson had an ability similar to Sylar's and managed to find someone in the past generation that had telekinesis or a similarly functioning power. The true nature remains to be seen and I'm interested to find out.

My theory is that he has a similar power to Sylar, and one of those powers is to change his appearance to Luke.

Pardon me for this:

Ima firing ma finger!

SHOOP DA WHOOP!

...sorry, it seemed funny picturing Sylar's dad doing that during the argument.

Wow i can see a Sylar vs. Daddy TK fight :D

That would be good. Maybe he was trying to start a new life by stealing Luke's.

PLEASE stop saying sylar is a empath! He is not! -.-
He cause use his IA to gain a power in a "empathic" way by understanding how it works, but it takes him like forever because he is not a EMPATH and its very hard for him to connect to others.
Other than that it could be the case that the "lazer finger" ability is different to TK and that they are used together to do the "job".
Will have to wait and see though.

Y'know thats a really good point. In other words like Dorothy he always had the power just didn't know it and didn't know how to access it.

. Because I was re-watching part of "Kindred" or as I call it "Lost" with Candice and Sylar and realized how did he get her head open to read the damn brain if he had no TK and nothing but a fork to open her head. Yet he thought he took her power?

so lame

So, to write themselves out of the hole that was left when Sylar somehow retained TK .. they are making his father have it (or something very similar). Fine. Whatever. It's all blah to me now.

Blah indeed. I really hope the writers come up with something good. I swear this show keeps getting more blah every week.

I was kinda hoping he remembered the incident wrongly, and it didn't happen like that at all.

It does seem odd that he didn't recall it till just then. I mean, obviously every brain works differently, but clearly that image of hi mother's head wound was what stuck with him (It being in color and everything else being in black and white). It could be argued that he should of had some sort of flash back the first time he saw a similar wound, Dexter style. Then again, I guess that could have fueled his anger when he was killing people, especially in the early days.


We wont know more till the give us more.

There's multiple people on the show with the same/similar powers

Sylar's Dad has been around longer..he could have had his "power gaining" phase just like Sylar is going through...its quite possible he just got TK from someone else with the ability

I thought the head-slicing was due to "The Hunger"? So Papa had IA and stole TK too? Wow what a co-inky-******.

i dunno if someone has already brought this up but why the hell didnt he use his ability to see the past of an object? or maybe he did and he just didnt realise it. that would explain why he remembered it only now when he was in the place touching the walls and stuff. i dunno.

maybe 'the hunger' is real to sylar.

maybe 'the hunger' has just been his subconscious mind expressing its need to resolve what happened at that diner.

both 'the hunger' and sylar's repressed memories can exist at the same time.

i think its slopping writing. because as we have seen before powers are based of lineage. Peter=arthur matt=muary. so makes you wonder were he got his base ability from. but like the fact sylar is no longer running around mindlessly killing people. but how is someone with TK gonna kill someone TK since its obvious his dad has had it longer.

Well, first thing, Sylar has more than TK. His dad, we're not sure, maybe he has more, maybe not. But if he doesnt, then Sylar has a small advantage here.

Secondly, and this is the most important thing here, the outcome of a battle in Heroes is weakly related to the fighting ability of the two fighters. There is exceptions indeed but, in general, the psychological status of the two individuals has much more influence on the outcome of a battle. Not to mention the surprise effect, which gives another huge advantage on Sylar.

Basically, considering Sylar's instability toward his feelings against his father, the outcome of the battle is still unpredictable. But he does have a chance, if he is least isntable as I think he is about it.

Pawn, you have two examples of power lineage, there are over a 1/2 dozen examples (off the top of my head) of it not working like that.
Hiro/Kaito
Arthur/Nathan
Nathan/Claire
Merideth/Claire
Nikki/Micha
DL/Micha
Angela/Peter/Nathan.

Out of every single character on the show, only twice have we seen power lineages.

Im not saying it can't happen, but it is not "sloppy writing", it is consistant with the show.

Didn't you know that anything anyone doesn't like about the show or is introduced and not immediately explained is a plot hole or sloppy writing? Catch up. lol

Hiro/Kaito we still dont know kaito's power.
and nathan is a synth so he never had the dna in him had to have a formula for it. and also we dont know how many of them were syn and not had the dna in them powers since birth.
and besides the ratings of the show can show you how sloppy the writing is.
If Sylars dad had TK whats the point of killing Brian Davis in season 1?

lol Kaito had the power of intuitive probability, or whatever it's called: "In a deleted scene from Four Months Later, Kaito reveals his "special ability" to Ando. Kaito says he can "see the variables of any situation and predict the outcome." He claims he is faster than a computer and attributes his success in the stock market to this ability. This ability is similar to accelerated probability."

ratings don't reflect how well a show is written. look at what happened to Arrest Development, then compare that writing to a successful reality show.

and Sylar's dad having TK does not in any way undermine Brian Davis' death. Sylar was obviously not born with TK and the show hasn't yet implied that Samson was born with it too.

this was an awesome episode was anticipating a power from samson gray and here we have it

Wow.
In the Blood
Lamarck was Right
Generation Xerox
(Bet Samson thought his wife "betrayed" or lied to him too, just like poor Elle.)
That is all.

omg i love your slicing smiley lol cool

All we have seen from Samson is "slice finger". This could be TK but we haven't seen much yet.
I figure this is not the end of Samson's abilities.
Since similar abilities seem to travel in family lines I would assume that Samson has some variation of Empath or IA (which I have always seen as the same thing, just a different was to access the same thing) I've been assuming that he is the Empath that Claude was hiding but no evidence to back it up or why Claude would do so..
If he has the "change his age" ability than Luke could be his son just like Gabriel. Luke's mom was go ticked off at Samson being an old man and a taxidermist. She probably had a fling when he appeared near her age and gets grossed out when the older version spends time with her son. Have to wait and see about that.

I am so excited about seeing more of this storyline. The suspense is getting to me.

I think it is possible that Sylar did not know how to tap into his power(s) early on. It may have been there all along, he just didn't know how to use it. By going into Davis' mind and seeing how it works (quite a "talent" of his), he could finally "fix" what was wrong within himself and use the power that was already there.

i like the claude theory but i also thing that samson doesnt have the age shift ability, i say this because it was revealed that sylars dad has cancer so he also wouldnt be in the body we see in the sneak peek snapshots we have seen released. i also think sylars dad doesnt have any absorbing type ability only tk on its own as the scenes make me think this and also it is ironic as it is with the tk

Which would explain how when the doctors working at the company tested him, they could only find telekinesis and nothing else...? (Think Season1 People!)

Sylar's head opening finger slice (or whatever the hell it's called) might be a different power altogether from TK, he can absorb power through empathy if he creates a bond with the other person, so he might have absorbed it from his father since very young.

OR, it was simply TK and Sylar's dad has it, period.

Nathan and Nikki are synths so they actually doesn't count but everything else is into place.

This is all so incredibly messed up. They really have a hard time keeping Sylar around. To me it seems they are putting every cliché they can find into the mix and hope they can sell it as "depth".


Anyway, it's funny that there seems only one single way to kill someone by TK.

any1 seen the new heroes promo i just saw it 10mins ago and im so high over it apparently sylar's dad has the same power as sylar aka IA from the looks of it because after seeing sylar heal he says "I WANT THAT POWER" OMG IT IS OFF THE HOOK I CANNOT WAIT FOR GLOVER HURRY WEEK HURRY

Lazer finger? Sounds cool. Is that one theory of Samson's ability? It's also understandable, because if he had TK, he could of just tossed her out of the car with TK(way easier, since Sylar can flip a truck with it).

That's what I was thinking. I believe he didn't remember that event, or rather it was suppressed until now and he unlocked it with the ability. Notice he didn't get the clarity of the event until the car was in hand