GoldSeven
Mar 4 2009, 01:25 PM
I can't really wrap my brain around between what happened off-stage between Nathan flying Peter away and the rooftop scene that follows it. Peter has his arm/chest bandaged, but I didn't get the impression that he'd actually been treated (and can't imagine he'd agree to treatment; any doctor or hospital would have to report an obvious gunshot wound). I know a lot is assumed to happen off-stage, but that seems like an extremely risky business to me.
Thoughts?
oliveFoxx
Mar 4 2009, 01:27 PM
Maybe he did it himself, after Angela brought him what he needed?
BluEyedGrl105
Mar 4 2009, 01:33 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 4 2009, 02:25 PM)

I can't really wrap my brain around between what happened off-stage between Nathan flying Peter away and the rooftop scene that follows it. Peter has his arm/chest bandaged, but I didn't get the impression that he'd actually been treated (and can't imagine he'd agree to treatment; any doctor or hospital would have to report an obvious gunshot wound). I know a lot is assumed to happen off-stage, but that seems like an extremely risky business to me.
Thoughts?
I know, that bothered me as well!
It looked like they were on the top of a hospital. How did Angela even get there? I'm guessing she was there before hand and had some medical supplies to Peter since she's a precog. I would have liked to see more of the family reunion.
Synch
Mar 4 2009, 01:38 PM
Best, easiest, most obvious answer? Nathan did it. It's not that hard to bandage a wound. Especially not for someone with Nathan's history. And what they needed to do it? Even easier. Buy it at your local pharmacy.
GoldSeven
Mar 4 2009, 01:41 PM
Bandage, yes, but would any of them attempt removing the bullet? We have an ex-naval officer and a paramedic, but that sounds a lot like surgery to me.
TessaBlues
Mar 4 2009, 01:52 PM
I wondered about that myself but then given the Petrellis are wealthy they probably have a private physician on standby. It's not a stretch. Or Peter could have fixed himself up since he has the medical knowledge.
Nathan said it was just a flesh wound. I don't know what the mean but I assume that meant it wasnt a bad wound that they couldn't handle.
Synch
Mar 4 2009, 01:52 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 4 2009, 03:41 PM)

Bandage, yes, but would any of them attempt removing the bullet? We have an ex-naval officer and a paramedic, but that sounds a lot like surgery to me.
Assuming it wasn't a through and through? It was a painful shoulder wound, but not particularly dangerous. A sterilized knife would be all you really needed. Especially considering it was a high powered sniper rifle. If it didn't go completely through, it would still have been resting near the skin on the other side of the wound.
oliveFoxx
Mar 4 2009, 01:53 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 4 2009, 10:41 PM)

Bandage, yes, but would any of them attempt removing the bullet? We have an ex-naval officer and a paramedic, but that sounds a lot like surgery to me.
Rambo always removes bullets himself.

And Rambo's not even a paramedic.
Anyway, the bullet also might have gone right through.
EDIT: Synch was quicker than me. Plus: we find each other at the same side. I will cross this day in my calendar.
GoldSeven
Mar 4 2009, 02:05 PM
Oh, I didn't catch that about the flesh wound (Nathan said it, yeah? Okay, I'll go figure

). Then I guess it did go right through, yes.
And Peter is Rambo's son anyway, isn't he? No hang on, that was Rocky...
TessaBlues
Mar 4 2009, 02:10 PM
The more I think about it the more I know I would have liked a scene where Peter is getting the wound tended. Possibly even by Nathan.
GoldSeven
Mar 4 2009, 02:11 PM
Give me a few days.
feral
Mar 4 2009, 02:12 PM
Probably a do-it-yourself job--Pete could do it himself as a nurse / paramedic and Nathan with his military background might also know how to field dress wounds.
TessaBlues
Mar 4 2009, 02:14 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 4 2009, 05:11 PM)

Give me a few days.

As if the touching between them isn't inappropriate enough as it is. LOL.
GoldSeven
Mar 4 2009, 02:18 PM
Nothing inappropriate planned. I firmly despise Petrellicest.

I might need texgrog though.
TessaBlues
Mar 4 2009, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 4 2009, 05:18 PM)

Nothing inappropriate planned. I firmly despise Petrellicest.

I might need texgrog though.

LOL.
Synch
Mar 4 2009, 02:23 PM
QUOTE (feral @ Mar 4 2009, 04:12 PM)

Probably a do-it-yourself job--Pete could do it himself as a nurse / paramedic and Nathan with his military background might also know how to field dress wounds.
I wouldn't think it was a do it yourself job, actually. Not that I don't think Peter would've received the necessary training, but that's an awkward place to try and pull anything out of.
wolfbro
Mar 4 2009, 02:40 PM
The Company had that one doctor who treated DL at the beginning of season two. They could have used him or some other similar well placed resource.
shader2099
Mar 4 2009, 03:01 PM
That's a great idea, wolfbro.
Reading it made me think. Could you imagine a speedster as a surgeon?
theronkinator
Mar 4 2009, 04:44 PM
The bullet went in and out.
Phoebegirl319
Mar 4 2009, 04:59 PM
I wondered this myself.
But did anyone else at first not think it was a bullet? I've re-watched the scene and it doesn't really look like a bullet, more like an electric dart or something?
BluEyedGrl105
Mar 4 2009, 05:06 PM
QUOTE (Phoebegirl319 @ Mar 4 2009, 05:59 PM)

But did anyone else at first not think it was a bullet? I've re-watched the scene and it doesn't really look like a bullet, more like an electric dart or something?
I thought Danko was shooting to kill. At least he didn't seem like he was listening to Nathan's "bring'em back alive" commands.
ChicagoCubz
Mar 4 2009, 06:08 PM
Actually Nathan didn't say it was a flesh wound did he? I thought he just said it was a scratch, like it just grazed him or something.
override
Mar 4 2009, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 4 2009, 01:25 PM)

I can't really wrap my brain around between what happened off-stage between Nathan flying Peter away and the rooftop scene that follows it. Peter has his arm/chest bandaged, but I didn't get the impression that he'd actually been treated (and can't imagine he'd agree to treatment; any doctor or hospital would have to report an obvious gunshot wound). I know a lot is assumed to happen off-stage, but that seems like an extremely risky business to me.
Thoughts?
A senator, and a very rich woman, who was part of a shadowy corporation which had it's own doctors/scientists, that used to capture people with abilities? I'm sure they can round up some doctors.
cowgirlhero
Mar 4 2009, 08:29 PM
I don't think it was a bullet either. I think it was some kind of dart.
And Nathan did say "it's just a scratch." I just hope there was nothing toxic in that dart.
Peter didn't look so good before flying off.
Synch
Mar 4 2009, 09:11 PM
Danko would not have used a dart. He would have used a bullet. He wasn't shooting to injure or tranq. He was shooting to kill.
And does anyone have a screencap of this alleged dart? Because
sniper rounds frequently look dart-esque.
override
Mar 4 2009, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 4 2009, 09:11 PM)

Danko would not have used a dart. He would have used a bullet. He wasn't shooting to injure or tranq. He was shooting to kill.
And does anyone have a screencap of this alleged dart? Because
sniper rounds frequently look dart-esque.Danko said:
QUOTE
"Time to die Petrelli". "Just a little further, give me the kill shot"
This is as good as I can get them.
Images link. If you watch the video, you'll see that the bullet goes in, and out.
Here are links to watch/download the episode. They are HD, and I don't know how long they'll be up, but I think you might need divx player, or vlc player if you have windows/mac, and mplayer-plugin if you have gnu/linux.
GoldSeven
Mar 5 2009, 04:52 AM
The link Synch posted actually makes me warm up my initial theory that I had when I first watched the episode - it did look to me as the projectile was still visible after the shot. Which does fit with the long darts in the picture. It would also account for why the wound wasn't that dangerous, and how they got out the bullet.
And Danko should have his sniper rifle checked if that's all the damage it does at such a close range...
I slowed down the vid and I didn't see the projectile exiting again; I also think that would have resulted in a lot more blood loss (although Peter did look rather pale.)
I have no doubt that Angela could have procured someone to treat Peter (he might even have known someone who could help, like his Iranian colleague), but then the setting would have been different, I think. The setting suggests the only ones there had been the three Petrellis.
Synch
Mar 5 2009, 08:40 AM
All the damage? A high powered rifle doesn't create a large entrance wound, unless they're using special ammo.
Phoebegirl319
Mar 5 2009, 03:26 PM
QUOTE (override @ Mar 5 2009, 03:30 AM)

Danko said:
This is as good as I can get them.
Images link. If you watch the video, you'll see that the bullet goes in, and out.
Here are links to watch/download the episode. They are HD, and I don't know how long they'll be up, but I think you might need divx player, or vlc player if you have windows/mac, and mplayer-plugin if you have gnu/linux.
Those images are really dark.
override
Mar 5 2009, 04:25 PM
QUOTE (Phoebegirl319 @ Mar 5 2009, 03:26 PM)

Those images are really dark.
Yeah, that's why I posted a link to download or watch the episode. Or just go to
hulu.com/heroes. Do you know any good methods/programs to extract the images in high resolution?
override
Mar 5 2009, 04:35 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 5 2009, 04:52 AM)

The link Synch posted actually makes me warm up my initial theory that I had when I first watched the episode - it did look to me as the projectile was still visible after the shot. Which does fit with the long darts in the picture. It would also account for why the wound wasn't that dangerous, and how they got out the bullet.
And Danko should have his sniper rifle checked if that's all the damage it does at such a close range...
I slowed down the vid and I didn't see the projectile exiting again; I also think that would have resulted in a lot more blood loss (although Peter did look rather pale.)
I have no doubt that Angela could have procured someone to treat Peter (he might even have known someone who could help, like his Iranian colleague), but then the setting would have been different, I think. The setting suggests the only ones there had been the three Petrellis.
Yeah, I watched it again, and it just seemed like he was wearing that one thing to hold up your arm for a while, nothing major.
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 5 2009, 08:40 AM)

All the damage? A high powered rifle doesn't create a large entrance wound, unless they're using special ammo.
Doesn't the show always use highly customized weapons. Like the company guns. They're supposed to be a highly covert elite team. They probably don't want people tracing things back to them, so they design specialized weapons, that cant be traced.
Synch
Mar 5 2009, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (override @ Mar 5 2009, 06:35 PM)

Doesn't the show always use highly customized weapons. Like the company guns. They're supposed to be a highly covert elite team. They probably don't want people tracing things back to them, so they design specialized weapons, that cant be traced.
Company uses typical weapons, unless they need something special to take down a particular special.
Danko is a government operative using a government weapon. He has no need for special measures for the simple fact that he is doing nothing illegal. Peter has been classified a terrorist threat, and lethal measures were authorized.
override
Mar 5 2009, 08:53 PM
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 5 2009, 08:27 PM)

Company uses typical weapons, unless they need something special to take down a particular special.
Danko is a government operative using a government weapon. He has no need for special measures for the simple fact that he is doing nothing illegal. Peter has been classified a terrorist threat, and lethal measures were authorized.
http://heroeswiki.com/The_Company%27s_gun. I just threw that out there for speculation.
GoldSeven
Mar 6 2009, 03:31 PM
If anyone's interested, my take's
here now.

Thanks to all of you for the input, and to Synch for posting those projectile pics. Talk about sparking the imagination.
Jade95
Mar 6 2009, 03:59 PM
well I dont know but does this help you guys on the fact that it wasn't a dart
http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Danko_fires.jpg
GoldSeven
Mar 6 2009, 04:08 PM
The pics Synch posted fit what I saw perfectly - it was something like a very elongated projectile, not a dart, but longer than a bullet because you can definitely see it when Peter goes over the edge.
override
Mar 6 2009, 04:09 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 6 2009, 03:31 PM)

If anyone's interested, my take's
here now.

Thanks to all of you for the input, and to Synch for posting those projectile pics. Talk about sparking the imagination.

Nice write up.
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