SaberProductions
Mar 9 2009, 06:00 PM
Matt Parkman is the son of the mind-reader?! I wonder how Matt's ex will feel about this...
EvolutionisNear
Mar 9 2009, 06:03 PM
Ha. He prob has superstrength or something
EvolutionisNear
Mar 9 2009, 06:04 PM
What do you think it is?
jenn3539
Mar 9 2009, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (EvolutionisNear @ Mar 9 2009, 09:03 PM)

Ha. He prob has superstrength or something
Bam Bam, lol.
rayne
Mar 9 2009, 06:05 PM
the way the baby sitter wanted to get out of there, i think baby matt has ability already.
pjw2000
Mar 9 2009, 06:06 PM
Cuteness.
EvolutionisNear
Mar 9 2009, 06:07 PM
Hehe. For sure
Phoebegirl319
Mar 9 2009, 06:09 PM
scaring off his babysitter.
Creator
Mar 9 2009, 06:09 PM
Most likely? Well, most likely he, like his father and father's father, is a telepath.
Creator
themightytruk
Mar 9 2009, 06:13 PM
So, this is what the whole "Save Matt Parkman" thing was about. Big surprise! Didn't think about Matt Parkman Jr. I guess it really was Matt's child after all, though this doesn't quite confirm it yet. Now, why would the baby need to be saved? Would the government seriously go after a child?!? And I doubt the kid has abilities at this young an age, that'd be way unusual from all the people we've seen so far. I think the old babysitter just had trouble taking care of a baby too long. They can be a big hassle in a very normal way. Hiro and Ando as babysitters. Wow. This is gonna be interesting.
RubberDucky
Mar 9 2009, 06:13 PM
all I can say is Jack Jack Attack
or is it Matt Matt Attack
longhorn1219
Mar 9 2009, 06:20 PM
It Really seems to me that children's abilities are stronger than there parents (after all evolution does take place over generations). Peter just had to be around someone with abilities to get it his father had to touch them and steal the powers. We saw tonight how much more powerful sylar was than his father. Maybe this baby will grow up to be super powerful and angela knows it and gets HRG to kidnap him.
SaberProductions
Mar 9 2009, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (RubberDucky @ Mar 9 2009, 09:13 PM)

all I can say is Jack Jack Attack
or is it Matt Matt Attack
XD I was thinking the exact same thing!
WickedM
Mar 9 2009, 06:47 PM
that baby is too cute for words XD
Begemot Geroi
Mar 9 2009, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (SaberProductions @ Mar 9 2009, 10:00 PM)

Matt Parkman is the son of the mind-reader?!
No. Matt Parkman is the son of Nathan Petrelli just like every other kid on this show.
evagolden
Mar 9 2009, 07:50 PM
lol, probably the son of Matt, if he has an ability and Rebel wants Hiro to save him. Right? Was it Janice actually? Didn't recognized her: In season 1 she seemed... I don't know, always exhausted and all. Now she seemed more outgoing... I'm kinda lost on this one!
Anyway, if, like some theorized, baby-Matt has an ability that scared the other babysitters, I doubt it's telepathy, because, well, they couldn't know that baby-Matt is reading their mind! Maybe more illusions, that would be close to mind-control, but still something that would scare someone! And also, if the government know about his potential ability, I guess it is something visible.
We'll probably see more of Hiro and Ando next episode, especcially considering its been 3 episodes with only 2-3 minutes of Hiro. So we'll learn more about baby-Matt next Monday, I guess!
Leek
Mar 9 2009, 08:13 PM
Matt's baby with Janice is way cuter then Matt's baby with Daphne. Just saying.
TheCMDKid
Mar 9 2009, 09:43 PM
I want to go with the idea that Matt Parkman Jr. is a 3rd (maybe? great grandpa parkman anyone?) generation telepath. Who knows? They've been pushing the whole family powers for awhile now. The Petrelli Family, The Greys, Parkman and his dad. I can't imagine Parkman Jr. not having telpathy.
It was nice not having Hiro for a few episodes...
-CMD
PinoiHeroes
Mar 10 2009, 12:08 AM
I wish baby matt has a "ability activation" so that he can bring back hiro's ability.
qasrose
Mar 10 2009, 02:16 AM
I have two words, Jak, Jak haha
A5J4DX
Mar 10 2009, 04:02 AM
that baby looked sooo frikin cute lol anyways yh i think it had definitely got powers maybe super strength as the babysitter was complaining so something smeels ability to me
Sayonara
Mar 10 2009, 05:52 AM
Just don't let Ando touch the baby we don't want it getting supercharged!!
Dunc
Mar 10 2009, 06:41 AM
QUOTE (themightytruk @ Mar 10 2009, 02:13 AM)

And I doubt the kid has abilities at this young an age, that'd be way unusual from all the people we've seen so far.
Except for baby claire who survived a burning building.
baottousai
Mar 10 2009, 07:48 AM
QUOTE (RubberDucky @ Mar 9 2009, 10:13 PM)

all I can say is Jack Jack Attack
or is it Matt Matt Attack
wow QFT XD
ShaggyTheShaman
Mar 10 2009, 07:59 AM
QUOTE (Dunc @ Mar 10 2009, 10:41 AM)

Except for baby claire who survived a burning building.
I don't think that was due to her ability, as The Company was under the impression that no ability had manifested yet. They told Noah to return her to The Company when she manifested.
Now, as far as Matt Parkman Jr. ... I'm confused. Matt left Janice because the baby wasn't his. So, unless the paternity test that must have determined that somehow
accidentally
got Tom McHenry's DNA from the baby (which would be impossible...) this can't be Matt's son. I mean, they never actually said a paternity test was done, but how else would Matt know if he was the father or not? He can't get that info from telepathy.
waiheke
Mar 10 2009, 08:12 AM
the paniced babysitter and hiro's reaction to her wanting him to take over was great . my problem is thinking that the baby could be expressing a power or could just have been a baby and the babysitter had had enough and hiro didn't want ANY of it !nice comic relief in that scene.
A5J4DX
Mar 10 2009, 11:28 AM
QUOTE (Sayonara @ Mar 10 2009, 01:52 PM)

Just don't let Ando touch the baby we don't want it getting supercharged!
lol yh i know i actually do want to see what would happen so im giving it a go ahead

QUOTE (Dunc @ Mar 10 2009, 02:41 PM)

Except for baby claire who survived a burning building.
hah u got him there

QUOTE (ShaggyTheShaman @ Mar 10 2009, 03:59 PM)

I don't think that was due to her ability, as The Company was under the impression that no ability had manifested yet. They told Noah to return her to The Company when she manifested.
Now, as far as Matt Parkman Jr. ... I'm confused. Matt left Janice because the baby wasn't his. So, unless the paternity test that must have determined that somehow accidentally got Tom McHenry's DNA from the baby (which would be impossible...) this can't be Matt's son. I mean, they never actually said a paternity test was done, but how else would Matt know if he was the father or not? He can't get that info from telepathy.
remember when maury trapped matt in his mind or something janice was there saying to matt he knew that the baby was his so guess it is
bwm27
Mar 10 2009, 12:12 PM
QUOTE
I don't think that was due to her ability, as The Company was under the impression that no ability had manifested yet. They told Noah to return her to The Company when she manifested.
Now, as far as Matt Parkman Jr. ... I'm confused. Matt left Janice because the baby wasn't his. So, unless the paternity test that must have determined that somehow accidentally got Tom McHenry's DNA from the baby (which would be impossible...) this can't be Matt's son. I mean, they never actually said a paternity test was done, but how else would Matt know if he was the father or not? He can't get that info from telepathy.
In S.2, Matt told Nathan that he and Janice found out that the baby was Tom's and this was why he left with Molly and moved to New York. We didn't see it, but it's possible that Tom has an ability too and he probably left Janice himself because of it. The babysitter indicated that the mother was out, meaning that Janice was single and Tom was not around. Well, it's going to be a major discovery for sure. I'm predicting that were going to see Janice and Daphne have a major showdown like Matt and Maury did when Matt trapped him in his own nightmare.
flyboynathan
Mar 10 2009, 03:35 PM
The fact that it's Tom McHenry's son is still questionable. The only time it was ever mentioned was in the nightmare in 2.05 "Fight or Flight". Matt's nightmare would be that the baby wasn't his, so the dream is still up in the air for interpretation. I REALLY want Matt Parkman, Jr. to be the Jack-Jack of Heroes. So cool considering A. Incredibles was one of Kring's big influences for HEROES, and B. The Incredibles happens to be one of my favorite movies.
Didn't realize until half-way through the scene who the baby was. But then it hit me, in "Five Years Gone," it was shown that the baby's name was Matt. Janice had a baby. Los Angeles. Holy crap!!!
Considering that, I seemed to be the only one at school who understood that. Everyone else thought it was just some random baby, or that it was Matt Parkman, sent to that time through time travel or some-such nonsense.
A5J4DX
Mar 10 2009, 03:39 PM
hah through time lol
LOSTie
Mar 10 2009, 03:43 PM
QUOTE (RubberDucky @ Mar 9 2009, 06:13 PM)

all I can say is Jack Jack Attack
or is it Matt Matt Attack
TOO CUTE! XD
Yeah, it'd be cool if Baby Matt had an ability. =3
Wonder what it could be... *ponders*
bruno6969
Mar 10 2009, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (Sayonara @ Mar 10 2009, 05:52 AM)

Just don't let Ando touch the baby we don't want it getting supercharged!
Depending what his ability is, maybe we
do!QUOTE (PinoiHeroes @ Mar 10 2009, 12:08 AM)

I wish baby matt has a "ability activation" so that he can bring back hiro's ability.

That would be cute and convienant.
Sifr
Mar 10 2009, 04:08 PM
So...
Its either another Matt Parkman...
Or Matt's been turned into a baby...
Which in that case...
*Slaps him upside the head*
Dude, you're a precog... should have seen that one coming?!
flyboynathan
Mar 10 2009, 04:50 PM
I sense an "Askew Heroes" coming!
LowerTheBar
Mar 10 2009, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (flyboynathan @ Mar 10 2009, 06:35 PM)

Considering that, I seemed to be the only one at school who understood that. Everyone else thought it was just some random baby, or that it was Matt Parkman, sent to that time through time travel or some-such nonsense.
Haha! Those dorks..ok, I was confused too. In my defense, I missed the previously on where they reminded us of the fax from Rebel that said "save Matt Parkman" (I saw it when i rewatched today).
So...what does the baby need saving
from?
Xenes
Mar 10 2009, 06:17 PM
I think that they come for matt or something. it was hard to tell but, it looked like they were kind of being atked. Then it also looked as though, through a quick shot, that Ando shot red lighting to protect them.
just saying.
natedizzle
Mar 10 2009, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (Xenes @ Mar 10 2009, 09:17 PM)

I think that they come for matt or something. it was hard to tell but, it looked like they were kind of being atked. Then it also looked as though, through a quick shot, that Ando shot red lighting to protect them.
just saying.
It definetly Matt Jr. Not Matt Parkman as a baby. It's Matt & Janice's baby! And Im pretty sure baby Matt doesnt have a power as of yet, he would not have mainfested!
evagolden
Mar 10 2009, 07:46 PM
Nah, I think he has an ability. If he didn't (yet) the government is unlikely to try to capture him. However, since Rebel asked Hiro to save Matt, it means he is in danger, and probably from a government attack, because that's Rebel's fight! As far as I know, the only warning he gives is when one ''Heroes'' is about to be attacked, or anything related to that (Such as the battle in Building 26).
Or maybe they use the fact that he's Matt's son to suppose that he has a high probability to have an ability, too, in the future...
OrangeSodaMan
Mar 10 2009, 08:01 PM
1. How do we KNOW it is mind reader man's baby?
2. Why send Hiro/Ando to LA to get him when Claire is right there in Cali anyways?
dcg
Mar 10 2009, 08:18 PM
I thought there was a flying baby on a viedo when the show brought up the idea of "The Formula" so I guess it was at Pinehurst. Hopefully this post will refresh the memory of someone else who can find that thread or a clip of the flying baby. I believe that the concensis on the thread was that the flying baby was Nathan.
I thought of Jack-Jack when the babysitter was so rattled and wanted to escape from the baby. hehe.
wolfbro
Mar 11 2009, 12:38 AM
QUOTE (OrangeSodaMan @ Mar 10 2009, 09:01 PM)

1. How do we KNOW it is mind reader man's baby?
2. Why send Hiro/Ando to LA to get him when Claire is right there in Cali anyways?
1. We don't know for certain that it's Matt's son, but they do seem to be leaning in that direction. It wouldn't be the first time in history when a mother thought the child came from an affair but it turns out it was from the husband.
2. To get them back in the picture with the other characters.
@ Dunc: Claire didn't manifest as a baby, she was saved by HRG from the fire and then given to his care with the specific instruction to not get attached to her in the event she did later manifest. Although the recon with the Catalyst from earlier this season makes that kind of muddled (and is a discussion for another topic

)
I believe the flying baby video was playing at Pinehurst, in the lab, iirc.
shader2099
Mar 11 2009, 03:28 AM
He is
obviously Ivan Whisky a.k.a. Cyborg 001!
Dunc
Mar 11 2009, 04:57 AM
QUOTE (wolfbro @ Mar 11 2009, 08:38 AM)

(and is a discussion for another topic

)
Hey, you started it. (EDIT: Oh no you didn't, I take it back, it was somebody else).

That's fair enough then... that was in the graphic novel, wasn't it? I was mostly going from memory, apparently it fails me.
evagolden
Mar 11 2009, 07:43 AM
They do suggest in an episode in season 1 that she survived the fire thanks to her ability, thought... I guess both theories have his arguments! But back on the main subject.
I don't totally remember season 2, and should probably rewatch that scene where Maury traps Matt into his own nightmarish world. But from what I remember then, Janice said that Matt wasn't Matt's son, but in fact, he has read her mind and knew she wasn't telling the truth, something like that. Like I said, I don't remember the details, but they do suggest Matt his Matt's son. Then again, he were trap into his own head back at that time, so who knows what is true and what is not...
Seraya7
Mar 11 2009, 01:03 PM
My guess as to what happened between Janice and Matt:
As Matt was recovering from being shot in the S1 finale, Janice was freaking out over the whole thing. She’s okay with the ability itself, it’s Matt feeling obliged to run off and play the hero and nearly get himself killed, leaving her alone and pregnant to fend for herself, that she doesn’t like. So, she’s upset with him for that. She keeps telling herself that the baby probably isn’t even his anyway, and convinces herself of that. Matt hears this and decides to leave, without even getting a paternity test (what would it have accomplished or a couple in trouble? Prove to Janice that Matt was reading her mind and didn’t trust her? Force Matt to either stay with her when neither of them were entirely comfortable with that, or to look like a jerk for leaving when his wife was pregnant with his child?) This was the easy way out. Matt tends to like those. (Watch me be completely wrong in two weeks!)
Personally, I’m 100% convinced that Matt Junior is Matt’s son. Why would Janice name her son after Matt if he wasn’t the father? I'm also 100% convinced that Matt Junior has an ability (because what could he possibly need saving from in this arc if he was just a normal baby?), and I think telepathy is pretty likely, but not the only option. I'm choosing to reserve judgment on whether his power has manifested yet until the next episode. It's not impossible, but he hasn't exactly done anything yet that a regular baby couldn't do.
GoldSeven
Mar 11 2009, 01:11 PM
QUOTE (Leek @ Mar 10 2009, 05:13 AM)

Matt's baby with Janice is way cuter then Matt's baby with Daphne. Just saying.
And about half the size!

And lol, I'm so slow. It never even occurred to me that the babysitter was so freaked out because the baby has an ability! I thought it was just some hollywoodesque overtaxed babysitter syndrome.
I'd LOVE it if the baby was able to create dreams or nightmares. Of empty milk bottles maybe, or full nappies.
A5J4DX
Mar 11 2009, 02:09 PM
ahahaha nappies imagine he had tk and was throwing nappies and bottles at the baby sitter lol and i dont think the baby had demonstrated any powers yet cuz the baby sitter wasnt like TOTALLY FREAKED OUT just seemed like the baby was too much responsibility as it would be obvious in the scenes if the baby used any powers on that baby sitter
shader2099
Mar 11 2009, 02:55 PM
I wonder what the kid has. Some thoughts:
Invisibility - a new parent's worst nightmare!
Telekinesis - we got poltergeists!
Shattering - we got a cheap mom!
Sound manipulation - call the Haitian. Quick.
Impenetrable skin - useful, if someone comes after the baby you can beat them over the head with him.
Mental manipulation - kind of boring, honestly.
Magnetism - hide the silver wear!
Teleportation - wheeere's the baby? There he is! Wheeere's the baby? There he... WHERE'S THE BABY?!
Probability manipulation - the kid is impossibly lucky!
Matter ingestion - the kid could eat a whole helping of plutonium and a mug of chemical waste before naptime
A5J4DX
Mar 11 2009, 03:40 PM
shade: like wt u rote looolz
RedWolf
Mar 12 2009, 05:54 AM
People you are forgeting in Matt's nightmare , in Fight or Flight I believe, Janice accused him of abandoning his son without even reading her mind.
Hell of a time to develop ethics.
Thing is he doesn't really know. From circumstancial evidence and how strained their marriage he believed it wasn't his son.
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