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Zensu14
An ongoing discussion obviously, but after tonight episode, any more thoughts on Rebel?
paigequinto
I still think its Micah
SuperT
It's still Micah.
rayne
its micah
bhero2all
Anyone catch the camera light go off before Nathan was pushed out the window? Good call rebal. I also say it has to be Micah.
Zensu14
I still think Angela is involved somehow. I don't think it's just Micah.
heroesfan456
So im not the only one who saw the camera go off. I think its Micah aswell the way rebel does things and the speed at which its done it has to be Micah. If rebel has that much control over bulding 26 it makes sense. Also Micah always talked about being a hero and this is his chance.
Mask
I still say Lenoa.

We'll see who's right in two weeks.
Xodus
It's probably Micah with help from Angela. And probably Molly too since Rebel always seems to know where everyone is.
themightytruk
Rebel's been doing a pretty good job, and it continues through this episode. From characters we know, Angela alongside Micah seems most likely.
pjw2000
Originally I was saying Angela. There was no way they'd bring back a pubescent Noah Gray-Cabey to play a kid, I thought. Now the more it plays out, it's gotta be Micah, or at least some team that includes him.
babyisis37
QUOTE (Zensu14 @ Mar 9 2009, 10:01 PM) *
An ongoing discussion obviously, but after tonight episode, any more thoughts on Rebel?


I'm with the theory that it's Micah- but I think it's funny that all the heroes are referring to Rebel as "he"- how do they know if it is guy or girl.. kind of sexist if you ask me ;-)
WickedM
QUOTE (bhero2all @ Mar 9 2009, 10:09 PM) *
Anyone catch the camera light go off before Nathan was pushed out the window? Good call rebal. I also say it has to be Micah.



I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that wink.gif
prander
I think it's got to be at least Micah... or someone with some kind of remote electronics manipulating-type power.

I think it's also got to be at least one other, like Angela, who can actually be the coordination, experience, information, intelligence, leadership, etc. behind it.

Unless he's really been working on being a hero on his own, and has seriously upped his game, I just can't see him doing it alone.
jenn3539
Did anyone else think there was a connection between Nathan saying to Traci, "...I am your last hope.", and Rebel's words to Traci on the computer monitor, "Have Hope."? I thought it was a clear clue that Nathan has a connection to Rebel.
heroesfan456
Its possible nathan has been in contact with rebel. Its also possible rebel isn't one person but many people.
tazmania
QUOTE (bhero2all @ Mar 9 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Anyone catch the camera light go off before Nathan was pushed out the window? Good call rebal. I also say it has to be Micah.


really?

nicely done micah tongue.gif
Begemot Geroi
QUOTE (Mask @ Mar 9 2009, 10:21 PM) *
I still say Lenoa.

Who?

I still think it's Micah. Either that or Rebel is like Anonymous.
Xodus
QUOTE (heroesfan456 @ Mar 9 2009, 11:05 PM) *
Its possible nathan has been in contact with rebel. Its also possible rebel isn't one person but many people.


I don't think he has been in contact with Rebel. He was asking Angela about it last episode.

I agree that Rebel isn't one person. Rebel does way too much to be just one person.
Ard_Choille
I definitely think Micah is in the Rebel camp. With his skill, he has access to an infinite amount of information.
Leek
I've been saying Micah from the start. I don't think he is working alone, but I am confident it is him. It has gotta be!
Dumbsaint
I hope it's Micah, he was important along with Hiro in showing people enjoy their powers. Which tbh I find more realistic than angsting over them.

Could still be Hana but I don't think she would tie in with the whole fresh start, dont have to watch the previous volumes approach they wanted with Heroes. Otherwise she makes good sense.
Raekon
Angela must be involved somehow in the whole rebel thing.
In my opinion, it has to be a group of people working together on this.
When it comes to electronics either micah or leona(if she ends up having this type of ability).
Except if they introduce another new character which I rather doubt.
No matter if Micah or Leona should do the electronics, I also think that Molly or someone with her ability must be involved as well because you definately need a locator in some occassions to be able to send a message to certain people.

qasrose
I think it's Nathan, it's just by chance, the text was sent to Clair, saying the agents are coming
then Nathan is there flying her out her window.? And the camera turning off at the right exact
time Nathan was pushed out the window? It's someone who can tell the future.

And I'm thinking Nathan has more than one Power.. tongue.gif
kojirodensetsu
It obviously has to be someone with an ability to manipulate electronics. Micah certainly does fit that bill.. but Micah's profile doesn't really seem to fit with rebel. Rebel has shown sophisticated thinking and planning and Micah was just an easy-going kid that liked comic books. I guess it could be Micah with the help of other individuals.. I'm just a little skeptical is all. The only other character I know that had some sort of electronic ability was that one girl.. wifi or wireless or something.. Don't quite remember what happened to her though.
qasrose
Nathan, Nathan, Nathan, Nathan

Remember that line

"I am not the devil, you think I am"
tojo27
Mark My Words.....

Rebel is Micah, Molly, and CLAUDE! Micah for electronics, Molly to locate, and Claude for intelligence and being able to disguise himself with invisibility. The Doyle graphic novel all but mentions him.

There you go; solved! Cool combo of characters!
A5J4DX
lol nice combination of characters mate and its obvious is it micah man with the "m" after rebel in the texts biggrin.gif or i laugh i get mistaken when it is revealed llol

thecordler
well i have to say its a group of people

fact 1: according to GNs has the power to locate people anywhere as there was no way to track doyle after the fire

fact 2: knows when and where people are in danger

fact 3: can manipulate tech

fact 4: pre-cog abilities to predict where HIro and Ando were, as they were off the grid in India

too many powers for 1 person, unless its a power hog like peter, sylar ect..
MagnificoG
QUOTE (tojo27 @ Mar 10 2009, 06:26 AM) *
Mark My Words...

Rebel is Micah, Molly, and CLAUDE! Micah for electronics, Molly to locate, and Claude for intelligence and being able to disguise himself with invisibility. The Doyle graphic novel all but mentions him.

There you go; solved! Cool combo of characters!

I agree with you. It's about time these three great characters return!
themightytruk
Well, last episode we saw Angela whisper something to Nathan, and we thought it was most likely telling him about Danko setting Matt up as a bomber. But we see this episode that Nathan finds out about that from a phone call, so Angela must have been telling Nathan something else. Maybe that something else was about Rebel, and now that Nathan's seen how far Danko is going, Nathan's sided with Rebel now. Nathan helps Matt disarm the bomb. Tracy gets a message telling her to have hope, and later Nathan tells her he's her only hope. And Nathan later saves Claire from the agents after her. I think Nathan might very well be in on this now.
chad13
QUOTE
Did anyone else think there was a connection between Nathan saying to Traci, "...I am your last hope.", and Rebel's words to Traci on the computer monitor, "Have Hope."? I thought it was a clear clue that Nathan has a connection to Rebel.


I definitely caught that. And then he has the whole speech to Tracy about helping everyone all along. It's q possibility he's Rebel's insider source of info, even if Micah or someone is in charge of the actual electronics stuff
SuperT
I just don't think there's anyone else that it can possibly be other then Micah. I mean, who else do we know of, that's still alive, that can do everything that we've seen done with the computer systems and phones and everything?

It just all fits together. And especially:

From the preview of next weeks episode where Noah tells Tracy they are releasing her if she can lead them to Rebel. Who else would she be leading them to that could logically be Rebel other then Micah?!
monalisa
i'm on the micah bandwagon, not just logically but wishfully smile.gif i miss that kid.

my other theory was that one girl, hana i think, who was sending IMs to ted sprague. but according to google/heroes wiki -- she died right?

so yeah, i'm going with micah unless they don't go for the obvious.

and i see the whole idea of him having a team, but it just bothers me that it would be "REBEL" and not "REBELS" lol
Begemot Geroi
Hana died, but she more or less became a ghost in the machine.
Zensu14
I thought the artists/writers said that Hana and Drucker were both totally dead after that GN with Matt N.
Aces
i honestly can't imagine it being anyone but micah.

the electronics stuff is a dead giveaway.

like others have suggested, though, i would love it if he had a partner or 'team?' molly would be great for this type of work, and aren't her and micah friends?! surely, if he's active again, he wouldn't hesitate to activate her as a resource.

A5J4DX
QUOTE (thecordler @ Mar 10 2009, 02:00 PM) *
well i have to say its a group of people

fact 1: according to GNs has the power to locate people anywhere as there was no way to track doyle after the fire

fact 2: knows when and where people are in danger

fact 3: can manipulate tech

fact 4: pre-cog abilities to predict where HIro and Ando were, as they were off the grid in India

too many powers for 1 person, unless its a power hog like peter, sylar ect..

i like how u fitted these powers lets hope it is true cuz it would be aweeeesome!
soccergirl
I have a theory which imo fits perfectly

Its FUTURE PETER!!
here is why I think he is the Rebel:

a) rebel needs to comunicate with machines, I know this points to micah, but since he is a kid and cant not do the following this would either mean he works in a team or its future peter after all .. but I have other reasons for future peter too
cool.gif rebel needs to have mollys power - to know which hero is where (future peter could have that - I know peter only can have one ability BUT who knows what future peter is capable of - there is still the question if peter touches sylar he can have his absorbation power back through emapthy)
c) rebels NEEDS to be on location
its one thing to know which hero is where but its a totally different thing, that rebel seems to switch his messages on the screen in the exact minute the hunters are not looking at it .. molly cant do that with her power imo, future peter could be invisible
d) when peter flew away nathan asked angie for a good reason why he should follow him
well we dont know WHAT angie told him but nathan had a weird look on his face
e) nathan NEEDS to know who rebel is, why in the world would he say "hope" the exact thing rebel told tracy?
f) the latest gn with dolye in it has someone in it, and dolye thinks it is rebel
it looks like peter to me - at least that cote looks like it


IMO this all leads to future peter who has a lot of powers again, he doesnt influece the timeline directly like in the past but indirect through his messages


PS: Sorry for my bad english
A5J4DX
i like what ur thinking socciegirl id love for it to be future peter he kicks ******
Citizen
I was thinking about how Nathan could be doing it to get ranked high in the government while protecting SOME of them from the raids. He'd know when people are going to get caught.
TracyStrauss
My stock’s on Micah, too.

Though they certainly wanted us to believe it is Nathan, or at least consider his involvement.

But upon checking Beeman’s blog, I noticed that Nathan had originally written a message to Tracy (which he then threw away), and I think that he was supposed to show that message to her; but instead, they decided to stick with Nathan’s “hope” line, to mislead us. Which was a very clever decision on their part, in my opinion. Worked out much better.
A5J4DX
yh it was clever but i think the writers must know we think it is micah XD
aulduron
Since Noah did not warn Claire himself, I believe he is in with Rebel.
juba
QUOTE (aulduron @ Mar 10 2009, 11:03 PM) *
Since Noah did not warn Claire himself, I believe he is in with Rebel.


What we saw is that he works for Angela, and she might have the help of Micah and Molly, two other files missing in Danko's docs...
Flora
Honestly, I think it's a group of people. A network. And I think both Micah and Angela are involved. Maybe Molly, too, but we haven't heard anything about Adair Tishler coming back, so I don't know.

How awesome is that? Micah and Angela working together. Who would've thought? I wanna see them share a scene.
Synch
I'm positive it's not Angela. This isn't her style of doing things at all.
I'm also equally certain it's not Nathan, for the same reason.
Noah's a possibility, but too obvious and it doesn't feel right. (It doesn't seem to be his way of acting in this kind of situation, although I'm leaving him open as a possibility.)
For it to be Micah is just, imho, ridiculous. The kid's smart, and has the right ability, but this isn't the kind of action he'd take. He wanted to be a hero, like Batman.

Whoever Rebel is, they're at least in their 20s and they're probably someone we don't expect. My money was, briefly, on Mills, but that now seems to be obviously wrong.
Begemot Geroi
I'm still leaning on the side of Micah and Molly working in concert with Angela even if it is wrong.
GoldSeven
QUOTE (jenn3539 @ Mar 10 2009, 04:00 AM) *
Did anyone else think there was a connection between Nathan saying to Traci, "...I am your last hope.", and Rebel's words to Traci on the computer monitor, "Have Hope."? I thought it was a clear clue that Nathan has a connection to Rebel.


I actually had a Yoda/Obi-Wan moment there: "No - there is another..." biggrin.gif
EyeOfHarmony
I, too, think there are many involved in REBEL

But here's my crazy guess as to one who might be in on it...
Lyle

I know...I know! lol
That kid is too darn quiet, though! Catch the smirk after his license was taken away? And since season 1 he has been carrying around his handheld "gadgets". Now I know...he's a teen, most do that, but I think there is something more going on there. Sure, I might be wrong, but it is a fun idea to play around with.

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