Gnosis
Mar 23 2009, 06:51 PM
Not only did she calmly avoid capture, she pushed floor one to show them she wasn't shaken or phased before she escaped! lol, She looked more annoyed then worried.
I don't think I've seen a better get away scene in Heroes. She is easily one of my favorite characters and knows how to use her power along with her natural charm.
colorado_dude
Mar 23 2009, 07:11 PM
I am curious to see if they tell us how Peter knew to go get her?
waiheke
Mar 23 2009, 07:17 PM
i enjoyed most of angela's scenes tonight ,they had a somewhat film noirish feel to them.the peter part struck me almost comically i must admit.
Sheindie
Mar 23 2009, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (colorado_dude @ Mar 23 2009, 11:11 PM)

I am curious to see if they tell us how Peter knew to go get her?
Angela got into his mind and told him so he came to get her
rxbanditboy1112
Mar 23 2009, 10:25 PM
QUOTE (Sheindie @ Mar 23 2009, 09:28 PM)

Angela got into his mind and told him so he came to get her
Uhhh angela is just precog. Shes not like matt, and she does not have telepathy or whatever.
She just knew matt's trick in that one episode, and yelled at him in her thoughts.
Synch
Mar 23 2009, 10:29 PM
She's also capable of mind communication, as the episode where she had Sylar free himself proved.
lordDJ
Mar 24 2009, 05:27 AM
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 23 2009, 11:29 PM)

She's also capable of mind communication, as the episode where she had Sylar free himself proved.
TAgreed!
Theres a lot more to her power than just precognition.
Matter of fact, I question whether or not she somehow goes to the futures she sees. This would explain how arthur froze her in villains, or how peter talked to charles in genesis.
shader2099
Mar 24 2009, 05:41 AM
Was this the first time her dreams actually showed us something literal? I think it was.
When Angela appeared in Gabriel's dream she implied it had more to do with his abilities than hers. But I guess that could just have been her manipulating him and her entering his dream was all her.
vicbear
Mar 24 2009, 06:25 AM
The scene where she dreams of her capture and wakes up to see it happening right away was wicked!
Saviour
Mar 24 2009, 08:41 AM
QUOTE (shader2099 @ Mar 24 2009, 02:41 PM)

Was this the first time her dreams actually showed us something literal? I think it was.
When Angela appeared in Gabriel's dream she implied it had more to do with his abilities than hers. But I guess that could just have been her manipulating him and her entering his dream was all her.
No, she implied that he was capable of doing what she was doing, namely bypassing the supposed power blockers imposed upon the cell. And he did just that, by TKing the restraints off and breaking out of the cell. The guys on the show have pretty much stated that her ability involves a lot more than just precognition in one of the Behind The Eclipse issues.
And yeah, this was the first time we've seen her have a literal dream, but I personally don't think that really means anything, considering how little we've seen of her dreams onscreen. She could have had hundreds of them in the forty plus years of having her ability. One thing's for certain, if it were Matt instead of her who'd just had a flash of precognition in that scenario, the end result would have been a lot different.
Japert
Mar 24 2009, 08:41 AM
It was for me the best episode of Angela so far. She used everything she have to get away of the situation: Her ability, her wisdom, her contacs, her controled mind, her awesomeness and her son.
This episode was great thaks to angela an Tracy.
A5J4DX
Mar 24 2009, 09:26 AM
QUOTE (lordDJ @ Mar 24 2009, 01:27 PM)

TAgreed!
Theres a lot more to her power than just precognition.
Matter of fact, I question whether or not she somehow goes to the futures she sees. This would explain how arthur froze her in villains, or how peter talked to charles in genesis.
yh there is more to her powers.. i loved it when peter saved her i got happy inside go peter!! and also yh i wish they tell us how peter came to know she was there
themightytruk
Mar 24 2009, 02:10 PM
I thought Angela's scenes in this episode were great for her character. From her conversation with Noah at the beginning to seeing her friend Millie, to escaping capture.
With Millie, we got to see another side to Angela, someone from her social life. Up to this point we've mainly just scene her interact with her family or on Company related business. So, it was pretty interesting to hear from her friend who doesn't seem to even know she has a power. Talking about how Arthur's death changed her and such.
And then Angela escaping capture was pretty cool. I really liked the scene where she envisions herself being captured from the cab, and when she snaps back from the dream, it starts to happen but Angela gets away. And later in the elevator, she escapes with Peter. Cool stuff.
BluEyedGrl105
Mar 24 2009, 02:14 PM
Angela: grace under pressure
GoldSeven
Mar 24 2009, 02:18 PM
I don't see them telling us how Peter knew. I see several possibilities - she could have contacted him in a dream, or Peter could have found out that Nathan was out of the operation by now, leaving Danko in charge, which would immediately mean that both Claire and Angela were in great danger. Angela more than Claire since, obviously, she's easier to kill.
I LOVED the umbrella scenes. All of them.
A5J4DX
Mar 24 2009, 02:18 PM
i think angela knew peter was coming as when she looked up at the lift's roof she had a little smirky smile like she was relieved
GoldSeven
Mar 24 2009, 02:21 PM
Hmmmm... good catch. If I was trapped in a lift and heard somebody working on the roof of the thing, I'd be more alarmed than relieved at the idea of possible rescue.
oliveFoxx
Mar 24 2009, 02:50 PM
I loved Angela in this episode and the first time I felt sorry for her, when in the end she seemed trapped. Usually she's the one controlling the situation but this time she was hunted, losing her grip over what's happening. The growing nervousness was greatly portraied by Christine Rose!
fernajen
Mar 24 2009, 04:04 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 24 2009, 06:21 PM)

Hmmmm... good catch. If I was trapped in a lift and heard somebody working on the roof of the thing, I'd be more alarmed than relieved at the idea of possible rescue.
I just watched the commentary on this episode and when that part came up they said that Angela looking up and smiling was because she
sees Peter opening the roof of the elevator.
BluEyedGrl105
Mar 24 2009, 04:19 PM
QUOTE (GoldSeven @ Mar 24 2009, 03:18 PM)

I don't see them telling us how Peter knew. I see several possibilities - she could have contacted him in a dream, or Peter could have found out that Nathan was out of the operation by now, leaving Danko in charge, which would immediately mean that both Claire and Angela were in great danger. Angela more than Claire since, obviously, she's easier to kill.
I LOVED the umbrella scenes. All of them.
She did close her eyes for a moment but I think that was just her trying to stat calm. If she did contact Peter there are a lot of conditions to that working: a.) Peter would have to be asleep in the middle of the day and b.) even with flight he would have to be really close by to find that specific elevator so quickly.
The only fugitive that knows about Nathan being outted is Mo so I think Mo told Peter, who realized that Claire, and especially his mother would be in trouble.
TessaBlues
Mar 24 2009, 04:42 PM
The way the scene played out for me was that she closed he eyes because she had resigned herself to the idea of being captured, the she hears that sound above her and give that little smirk because she knows she's saved.
It was cemented by the fact that she was discussing with Noah that Peter would not forgive her earlier, when really knowing Peter we knew that he would. He's just a puppy that way. And he loves his Mommy.
GoldSeven
Mar 25 2009, 04:04 AM
Probably not even that so much, but - he's a decent boy. And he puts family first. We see that a lot, thoughout the series and really will all the Petrelli family - whatever happens, family is family, and you help them, even if it's grudgingly. Peter didn't look happy at the end, and I think he's still angry at Angela. She did cautiously side with him on the rooftop scene, but still, the last he knew was that she and Nathan were responsible for rounding up specials.
The easiest explanation of how Peter knew that she was there was Rebel. And it's really the only one I can think of that accounts for everything. Micah would have been able to overhear the goon squad's actions, he would have heard that they were sent to that building (what was it, by the way? A hotel?), and could have sent Peter a very quick note just telling him where to go.
Mohinder might have told him that Angela was in danger, but not where she was.
I even think Nathan might have tried to contact Peter - he went to save Claire first thing because he realised that, with him gone, her free pass was up, and he must have realised that his mother was in equal danger.
Besarien
Mar 25 2009, 06:02 AM
I really like the theory that Angela contacted Peter. Maybe in a shared daydream? I had figured she called him on her cell though. The team did say something about tracking her that way. If that was the case I'm sure she was clever enough to drop it soon after.
I love Angela too, and have since she got picked up for shoplifting socks. She's come a long way since, but is still Angela, swiping her friend's umbrella. Got to love those mad survival skills! She might be on the run now; but we know that her hair will stay dry and her feet will stay warm
fernajen
Mar 25 2009, 06:20 AM
I think another way he might have known is if he was keeping track of her from a distance. I mean if you think about it he may be really mad at her but he is all alone. Another thing is he doesn't seem to have a clear path of what to do. Since as far as he concerned she shares responsibility in what is happening so he might have felt following her might be able to give him some insight into what his next move should be and it's safer for him to follow her around than pretty much anybody else who is involved as if she see him she is unlikely to tattle on him.
GoldSeven
Mar 25 2009, 06:30 AM
Hm, listening to her talking to Noah in the car again makes me think she would never have contacted Peter. She thinks her son has given up on her, and that she deserves it. It would be out of character for her to beg him to come to her aid.
I do like the idea that Peter was keeping tabs on her.
A5J4DX
Mar 25 2009, 07:52 AM
yh i also have a theory peter might have tabs on here and was following her XD
nychulo3
Mar 25 2009, 07:53 AM
Angela is a great character, and all her scenes I loved. Her cab into building scene was utterly OUTSTANDING! Not my favorite character on the show (definitely one of them), but surely is in my opinion the best actor/actress!
Visitor27
Mar 25 2009, 12:39 PM
QUOTE (A5J4DX @ Mar 24 2009, 02:18 PM)

i think angela knew peter was coming as when she looked up at the lift's roof she had a little smirky smile like she was relieved
She looked pretty defeated to me. Bryan Fuller on the commentary says when she looks up she's actually seeing Peter, so it's her salvation. I don't think she had any idea he was coming and at the start of the show even said she felt he had cut her off and she had lost him forever.
Besarien
Mar 25 2009, 03:07 PM
QUOTE (Visitor27 @ Mar 25 2009, 01:39 PM)

She looked pretty defeated to me. Bryan Fuller on the commentary says when she looks up she's actually seeing Peter, so it's her salvation. I don't think she had any idea he was coming and at the start of the show even said she felt he had cut her off and she had lost him forever.
I just don't see Angela as the type to give up without trying. She has successfully manipulated people she had far less hold over than she has over Peter. She knows Peter. He is not the sort of person to turn his back on family or even strangers in need. What kind of person would it make Peter if he let his mom get dragged away because of her powers? It would go against what he believes in. Witholding forgiveness is one thing. Selling out your mom to the government along with your principles is something else entirely.
Visitor27
Mar 25 2009, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Besarien @ Mar 25 2009, 04:07 PM)

I just don't see Angela as the type to give up without trying. She has successfully manipulated people she had far less hold over than she has over Peter. She knows Peter. He is not the sort of person to turn his back on family or even strangers in need. What kind of person would it make Peter if he let his mom get dragged away because of her powers? It would go against what he believes in. Witholding forgiveness is one thing. Selling out your mom to the government along with your principles is something else entirely.
With out trying! She tried big time! She ran, she called a friend, she pretended to flirt with a man, she walked calmly to an elevator bank, but she was surrounded and the elevator was being pushed down... even I was going "How the hell is she gonna get out of this!" and I knew she did. She looked pretty terrified and it only got worse as the elevator went lower and not higher - she was trapped like a rat - and it looked like there was no way of getting out. She tried, and it looked like she failed.
They set up her feelings at the start, that Peter had said his good-byes and would never forgive her. That's called good writing and if you don't believe it Bryan Fuller confirms it on the commentary when he he says THAT line was setting up the reveal that Peter did come and save his mother.
The woman tired real bad and I dont' care how "resourceful" and strong willed you are when your stuck in a box being forced down, where there are men with guns with no way out anyone would feel hopeless.
Not to mention how would Peter know as far as she's concerned she's in need of help.
BluEyedGrl105
Mar 25 2009, 04:22 PM
I agree with V27, I thought Angie was grace under pressure. It was just a lot more pressure than she's used to lol. For once she is not the women behind the curtain, it's a role reversal.
Kinda off topic, but I think Mo must have told Peter about Nathan being outted (Mo is the only fugitive who knows) so Peter knew Claire, and especially Angela, were in danger. He was probably following his mother the whole time.
Visitor27
Mar 25 2009, 04:31 PM
QUOTE (BluEyedGrl105 @ Mar 25 2009, 04:22 PM)

I agree with V27, I thought Angie was grace under pressure. It was just a lot more pressure than she's used to lol. For once she is not the women behind the curtain, it's a role reversal.
Kinda off topic, but I think Mo must have told Peter about Nathan being outted (Mo is the only fugitive who knows) so Peter knew Claire, and especially Angela, were in danger. He was probably following his mother the whole time.
Mo was with Matt at the hospital. I don't think he'd know the first thing on how to contact Peter. He doesn't have a cell phone and he's a fugitive. Either he was following her or as I like to think, "Rebel" told him. "Save your mother."
BluEyedGrl105
Mar 25 2009, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (Visitor27 @ Mar 25 2009, 04:31 PM)

Either he was following her or as I like to think, "Rebel" told him. "Save your mother."
Yes, but Micah seemed a bit preoccupied at the time.
Visitor27
Mar 25 2009, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (BluEyedGrl105 @ Mar 25 2009, 05:42 PM)

Yes, but Micah seemed a bit preoccupied at the time.
True, but he could have done it before hand. Because really, how did Micah Hiro and Ando we're in India or that they we're going after Baby Matt with just enough ahead time travel for Hiro and Ando to get there.
A5J4DX
Mar 26 2009, 09:42 AM
yeah angela looked defeated but she was great as usual go christine!
JentheFangirl
Mar 26 2009, 10:34 AM
Angela Petrelli is the Queen.
You need no further explanation.
A5J4DX
Mar 26 2009, 01:54 PM
D-I-T-T-O!
Raekon
Mar 26 2009, 10:41 PM
Anyone catched the scene in which she closes her eyes in the elevator like if she were using her power to find out how she can get out of there, then she opens them a short smile goes over her lips and then she looks up and sees peter?

At least it seemed to me as if she would use her power which obviously showed her that her son will save her.

I loved all her scenes as usually and I can't wait to see her with peter strike back!
GoldSeven
Mar 26 2009, 10:48 PM
Hmmmm... based on a
minor spoiler for the next ep from the Sprint Preview, I don't think so, but I can't rule it out.
She said she couldn't sleep, and couldn't dream right now, because "sleep has to be earned". I'm not sure she can just close her eyes and communicate with people that way - that would make her extremely powerful.
Plus, she did tell Noah that she thought Peter had forsaken her (and had any right to have done so). I don't think she would try to contact him, but then, she was desperate...
I don't think we'll ever know. It' the sort of game mechanics the show often doesn't disclose.
A5J4DX
Mar 27 2009, 08:05 AM
i hope they tell us everything XD
I love Angela, but that ep only made me love her all the more. I enjoyed the way they made her seem vulnerable without being pathetic. Even in desperate situations, she has her wits about her and approaches things methodically. The only thing I have to question is the wisdom of going into the elevator/lift in that kind of situation. I gues when you're that desperate, and have guys with guns right on your tail, you take the nearest shelter rather than looking for the stairs or an alternate exit.
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