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Mask
How did Sylar get out of the car and onto that rooftop?! I could understand one of them being the shapeshifter, but how did he get out of the car so fast?!

TheLastAlive
QUOTE (Mask @ Mar 30 2009, 10:02 PM) *


Teleportation

ChicagoCubz
Because he's Sylar.
Mask
Where would he have gotten teleportation from?
TheLastAlive
QUOTE (Mask @ Mar 30 2009, 10:06 PM) *
Where would he have gotten teleportation from?


He's Sylar they don't necessarily need to tell us where he got ALL is powers
Mask
Yes they do
MewtRandell
QUOTE (TheLastAlive @ Mar 30 2009, 09:07 PM) *
He's Sylar they don't necessarily need to tell us where he got ALL is powers


But they can't randomly add powers to the list each time it's convenient, that is just ridiculous. I really hope they at least explain exactly what the power in question is.
TheLastAlive
QUOTE (MewtRandell @ Mar 30 2009, 10:11 PM) *
But they can't randomly add powers to the list each time it's convenient, that is just ridiculous. I really hope they at least explain exactly what the power in question is.


Flashback possibly?
Leek
QUOTE (MewtRandell @ Mar 30 2009, 10:11 PM) *
But they can't randomly add powers to the list each time it's convenient, that is just ridiculous. I really hope they at least explain exactly what the power in question is.


They don't randomly add them. They wont do that many times. They add one or two, and that is that. He has been hunting around for a while, so have teleportation isn't surprising. It's like when everyone guessed he has superspeed way back when.
rayne
maybe it will be explained in a GN
wolfbro
From the very beginning of the show, Sylar has had a "sneakiness" talent/ability/whatever. That would explain his vanishing out of the car or at least be consistent with how he operates in the past. Getting onto the roof that quickly? No problem. He used TK. Just like when he escaped from Matt and Audry or when he was suddenly upon Peter in Homecoming or how he snuck up on Dale or in the Road Kill GN, etc.
DoctorClaude
Yeah, I believe the writers have explained it as an extension of his Telekinesis. Think back to season one's finale, where Sylar was "hiding in plain sight".
PakoisFr4nk
QUOTE (DoctorClaude @ Mar 30 2009, 07:21 PM) *
Yeah, I believe the writers have explained it as an extension of his Telekinesis. Think back to season one's finale, where Sylar was "hiding in plain sight".


Or maybe he killed off that army girl whats her face with the teleportation power?
IGotSuperPowers
QUOTE (ChicagoCubz @ Mar 30 2009, 07:04 PM) *
Because he's Sylar.

Damn, that was gonna be my answer.
override
Think back in season 1, where he used TK to climb up the wall, and when he disappear after he and Peter fell down from the rooftop.
JuliusWrek
Hey_

He did some sneaky stuff when he stole Dale's power of superhearing too.

"I didn't hear any footsteps."

"...thats because there weren't any."

Julius F. Wrek
Alexfveditor86
I think people forget that with TK sylar can technically make himself fly or at least have his mind push him great distances.
daDoctah
Or maybe not teleportation at all?

Suppose he's picked up an ability to project his image someplace where he isn't. Then he could have been on the rooftop the whole time and just made Danko think he was in the car with him.
stefi
QUOTE (ChicagoCubz @ Mar 31 2009, 01:04 PM) *
Because he's Sylar.


nail head
revel911
QUOTE (daDoctah @ Mar 31 2009, 05:06 AM) *
Or maybe not teleportation at all?

Suppose he's picked up an ability to project his image someplace where he isn't. Then he could have been on the rooftop the whole time and just made Danko think he was in the car with him.


That's what I was thinking when I watched the episode.
Raekon
The whole scene was ****** because even with tk, what he did was way too fast and teleportation is not a ability he has.

The Most disturbing thing of all was the hovering up to the building. -.-
Begemot Geroi
QUOTE (daDoctah @ Mar 31 2009, 05:06 AM) *
Suppose he's picked up an ability to project his image someplace where he isn't. Then he could have been on the rooftop the whole time and just made Danko think he was in the car with him.

I was thinking that, too. Like some sort of astral projection-type ability.
darkcervantes
I'm pretty sure Sylar got the teleportation ability at the beginning of last night's episode when they were going after the one special who's power they didn't know (the guy who red flagged in the DNA database), we know Sylar killed him and by the way Sylar was smiling like a kid in a candy store when he teleported to the top of that building, it was obvious he was all cheery about his new teleportation ability that he probably hasn't even used yet

His dissapearing constanytly is totally different than what happened last night, usually he slips away because he can float with TK which has been proven in the episode where he killed the super hearing lady

This teleportation thing is brand spanking new!

Also, please explain how TK can translate to teleportation? That would mean that he should be able to fly using TK as well

he has never teleported before..also, where have the writers explained his TK magically manifested teleportation, link?
Trihan
The guy with the unknown power was the shapeshifter whose power Sylar took later in the episode, so he can't have killed him to get teleportation.

That said, it had to have been either teleportation or astral projection, since the doors of the car didn't open before Sylar got out.
Hero Freak
The production just took a little artistic license.

Yea, it bothered me at first as well, but let's not start jumping to conclusions.


Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


MisterDominator
but it's not like this is the first time he did this. remember earlier on this Season when he was in the house with Claire? he was here and there and everywhere. and in Season One at Kirby Plaza, he just sort of appeared next to Peter at the finale. whether it is some form of his telekinesis or another ability he acquired back in Season One, who knows. but it didn't just start at this episode. and the mutie Danko was hunting? that was clearly the shapeshifter, not some other individual with other powers.

what gets me about this whole thing - why does Sylar bother with Danko? he would be much better off lurking and letting Danko do his dirty work for him, catching all the muties, then infiltrating the big room where all the muties are kept with the tubes in their noses for a smorgasboard of abilities. sure, the teamwork kind of appeals to Sylar's cat-and-mouse games. but he could just as easily kill Danko now and assume his persona as the shapeshifter, with all Danko's resources at his disposal. is Danko really that spectacular a character that Sylar needs him?
thebigdao
I always had the impression that Sylar had an ability, possibly tied in to his telekinesis, that let him shadow-hop around, or else he wouldn't have been able to do half the sneaky stuff he did in season 1: attacking Molly, appearing here and there like Jason, the Kirby plaza sudden appearance when there were like 10 people all around Peter who should have spotted him coming at least, etc.
Imthehero
Sylar has always been sneaky, but i think this is somthing more. Now i cant be possitive, but doesnt Sylar distract Danko with the cigarette lighter popping, and when Danko turns back around Sylar is gone. The cigarette lighter indicated Sylar was physicaly in the car, and we dont hear doors closing, so im voting he got teleportation.
Synch
No teleportation. No need.

And all Sylar did was take the cigarette out of his hand and fling it through the open window.
Imthehero
I didnt catch the flung cigarette, but how is there "no teleportation, no need"?

He was still in a car, right?
He did still leave without doors opening, right?
He did manage to "appear" like 30 floors up (but that could be tk), right?

What makes me lean heavily towards teleportation is he escaped from the car, in an instant (with doors shut), and was "almost instantly" somewhere else. Also, they did bring the teleportation power into play this volume, so maybe Sylar managed to grab a random person off his List with that ability.
Synch
Windows were open. He wasn't strapped in.

It was movement via telekinesis. Simple as that.

Same way he snuck up on Dale without footsteps.
TrentSteele
I don't see why they should have to explain every little thing that happens in a given episode. We know Sylar has a heck of a lot of powers and has been committing more killings of various unidentified Specials. Frankly, it bugs me when he goes episodes upon episodes and doesn't show any powers we haven't seen before- I watch Sylar in an action sequence and ask, "if he has that many powers, why doesn't he ever use anything other than telekinesis?" Sylar logically should have numerous powers we aren't aware of, and therefore it should be expected that he will occasionally do something seemingly inexplicable.
RiddlerHanjinome
My problem with TK or teleportation being the answer is that he shouldn't have been that rain-covered that quick. The way they showed it, I assumed it was some sort of mental-projection type of ability.
Synch
It was a downpour. You get soaked through in seconds.
BrainMan
QUOTE (Mask @ Mar 30 2009, 08:02 PM) *
How did Sylar get out of the car and onto that rooftop?! I could understand one of them being the shapeshifter, but how did he get out of the car so fast?!



Did everyone forget that sylar can do that? Come on look at the S1 GN the one where sylar just killed charlie in the BTD he was picked up by a beer truck and he ended up killing the driver, reading the semi manual, and getting chased by the police.

In the GN he said i can escape but i need to time this perfectly. the next page you see the semi falling off a mountain and Sylar is hanging on a tree branch way way way high in the air.

Thats how he got out of the car and onto the roof.

The writers didn't just give him a random power.


People need to start thinking about how the power can be used seriously.

I've called a lot of things on this show when it comes to powers.
For instance:
Sylar throwing peter out of pinehurst and it went to commercials. I said i bet sylar slowed him down with his TK.
Matt and daphne when knox came in s3 to kill them. I knew matt just made him see what he wanted him to see.
And when nathan was drinking this episode i told my GF dude just give it to claire she would kill that college kid.. And look what happened.


And even things less obvious like when she was trying to convince aqua boy to leave the comic store i said "HEY TROLL JUST CUT YOURSELF!!"


Seriously people if you are going to make a post on how a power is/can be used.. Think about it for a few min first. If i had this power and had to do this how would i do it??


Come on these things are dead give aways
A5J4DX
i think that sylar used tk on himself and lifted himself up to the rooftop XD always wondered if that would be possible for sylar that he'd use it XD
conspiracytheory
This dates back to the first season.

Dale: I didn't hear footsteps.
Sylar: That's because there weren't any.

Audrey: Most people wouldn't have reported this.
Sylar: I'm not most people.
Audrey: *turns around, Sylar has somehow vanished*

Several times a character has walked into a room and looked all around, seen no one, and then Sylar appears behind them from what seems to be thin air.

And then there's the scene where Sylar uses TK to turn a gun on Audrey in the alleyway, and Matt shows up, rescues Audrey, but when he turns around to grab Sylar he's disappeared without an exit - the alley is a dead-end, and you'd have to scale ten stories to escape.

This isn't Dragonball, guys. You don't have to know the "power levels" of all the characters, whether they're numbers or lists of superhuman abilities. We don't know all of Sylar's powers. I think that a little mystery is healthy in this case, since it's in keeping with what we've seen before.
A5J4DX
oh yh i remember those scenes i forgot about those well it indicates he can levitate himself obviously XD
Synch
It's TK.

And we do actually know every ability he has now. We've watched him get them all.

He started this season out with TK, IA and EM. Since then he's received Regen, Lie Detector, Shape Shifting.
Dunc
QUOTE (Hero Freak @ Mar 31 2009, 01:54 PM) *
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
And sometimes a cigar is a big fat ****! smile.gif
Alordo
As several others have stated, it's Sylar. The only character on the show that matters.
Dunc
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 31 2009, 10:05 PM) *
It's TK.

And we do actually know every ability he has now. We've watched him get them all.

He started this season out with TK, IA and EM. Since then he's received Regen, Lie Detector, Shape Shifting.

I thought EM stood for Empathic Mimicry?
Synch
QUOTE (Dunc @ Mar 31 2009, 05:19 PM) *
I thought EM stood for Empathic Mimicry?


It does. And, as Arthur pointed out and has been verified twice now, he has it.
Dunc
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 31 2009, 10:28 PM) *
It does. And, as Arthur pointed out and has been verified twice now, he has it.

Okay. Well you forgot to add Elle's electricity ability to your list. Dunno what that ones shortened to.
Synch
i knew I was missing a couple. I guess it's Electrokinesis or Electrogenesis. (I prefer the second term since it more accurately describes her ability to create and control lightning. lol)
Dunc
QUOTE (Synch @ Mar 31 2009, 10:39 PM) *
i knew I was missing a couple. I guess it's Electrokinesis or Electrogenesis. (I prefer the second term since it more accurately describes her ability to create and control lightning. lol)

Okay so EK or EG then! Fair.

Well according to Heroes Wiki the others missing are
Alchemy from Bob
Clairsentience from Bridget
Sound Manipulation from Jesse
and Imprinting from Joe Macon

Don't know what the hell that last one is actually. Or the character its come from. Any ideas?
A5J4DX
you also missed out sound manipulation tongue.gif
Synch
It's from the GNs..


http://heroeswiki.com/Joe_Macon
http://heroeswiki.com/Imprinting
Imprinting is the ability to mentally imprint (or "write") marks onto surfaces like paper.


ETA:
*headdesk*
That's what I get for trying to go from memory. I knew I was missing a couple. Didn't realize I was missing over half. lol
A5J4DX
oh snap dunc wrote about sound manipulation sorry by bad XD
Dunc
QUOTE (A5J4DX @ Mar 31 2009, 10:49 PM) *
oh snap dunc wrote about sound manipulation sorry by bad XD

No worries.

I can't see/hear 'oh snap' without hearing it in Joy's voice, never really heard the saying before My Name Is Earl. biggrin.gif

EDIT: That and Jason Lee's voice saying 'Randy!' are completely etched into my brain.
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