I am not Catholic, but was that Mary that Angela pointed at - will it be lame if that is the name they chose?

I also forget, but did we get the name of everyone in the photo from season two of the founders - and would Angela's sister be a founder?

Or my personal option #3 is Leona Mills - just an interesting link

I think it was an guardian angel type thing

It was an angel...

If you want Marian images, look at when Angela had the shawl over her head... being Catholic, I thought that was a pretty cool thing to put in there.

Yeah Angela means Angela - messenger from god - Angela is god's messenger on earth thought her dreams.

I keep thinking the trailer makes it seem like they are digging her sister up, BUT

when a character is called YOUNG ALICE, like Angela's sister is in the flashback coming up (as in listed in the credits)that usually means there is an "older Alice"

The Alice thing is interesting but I had a thought this morning - what if Sandra is Angela's sister?

I know there's really nothing to indicate that she is, but it did cross my mind that that stained glass looked a little like Sandra. Plus why would Angela just randomly give Claire to just some guy(HRG) in middle management to look after her granddaughter?

Just a thought...

Wasn't there another woman in the photo of the company founders?



I believe we saw everyone in that photo except her. Does anyone remember?

Because Angela dreamed of them giving Claire to HRG and Sandra.

I'm thinking Angela's sister Alice is going to have an ability that can show people the past, like astral projection. That's why Angela needs Peter, Nathan and Claire to meet her.

But surely she can do the same thing herself through dreams...?

Sandra is a good guess. My thought was that it could possibly be Rachel (because it seems as though her story line in Istory is pretty much done-and she could be dead too.) She's not listed in the credits in the upcoming episode though, where as Sandra is...

It's not Sandra.

I tend to think it's Millie actually.

You mean, Angela? Maybe. We know from her scene with Sylar she can do some kind of dream walking.

opps...I should spoiler tag Angela's sister's name.

i wonder if her sister has angel like powers never know XD

I believe this to be the case as well. I don't think they would assign Claire to Noah who was middle management in the company unless he happened to be accompanied by someone who could keep an eye on him. I think that Sandra feel to much in love with Claire as well to simply give her up when she manifested, if she found out first before Noah did. Anyways, I have a great feeling that Sandra Bennett is Angela's sister.

never know mate but hrg worked for the company and prob entrusted him plus angela has known hrg for years and are verrry close friends

If Sandra is Angela's sister that adds yet another crazy dynamic to the their family. Claire's adoptive mother is also her... what? Second aunty Great aunty or something?

isnt it grandma as shes her sister and could be that anyways nm me XD

Googled it. Apparently it would make her a great aunty.

hah! good old google XD i always thought of it as if someone is your grandma and your grandma's sister is your grandma too XD same goes for auntis and uncles XD

Angela's the Grandmother. Angela's sister would be a Great Aunt.

yes i know she is the grandmother but like i said i used to think that about the relationships i families XD

Yeah, though not just that. We've seen Peter using the other aspects of that power a lot more. Like when he spoke to Charles in the Season 1 finale or when he went back in time to watch himself and Caitlin get caught by the dudes in Hazmat suits in Season 2. Not mention things like Peter dreaming about Charles in Season 1 just as he died or as he was dying. Little things like that.

I think it will be a new character (guest star probably) or she is already dead but Angela can connect them to her?
Don't know.
However, in my opinion it can't be Sandra or Millie.
In Sandras case its obvious and in Millies case they already said that they were old friends and nothing more.

Methinks the sister will have empathy like Peter.

Or wings!

yeah that would be cool and i also was thinking she might have wings XD

So your both saying that Sandra is an empath with wings

That would be cool

hah! that is defo wrong sandra cant be her sister because she was already shocked about claire's power and the whole company thing so definitely not her FULL STOP

Seeing actual wings would shock me. It would be the first fully physical mutation we've seen on the show. (We've seen people who could transform into an element, but never one with a purely physical, non-concealable, mutation.) Personally, I hope they don't go there.

I do think Angela's comment hints at flight, or something that can be used to help the sister fly.

And it's definitely not Sandra.

It's never been established if it was Angela's power Peter used in those instances, was it? I always thought it was some sort of Astral Projection and came from Charles.

No, it was never established that it was Angela's power and would, in fact, make no sense. (Her power is precog dreams..and, maybe, being able to project into someone's head for communication purposes. Not hopping back half a dozen years and having tea with a dead man or taking the same man for a flight around the world just before he dies.)

The other instance where he used an ability that couldn't have come from Angela was during S2. (And it was an ability that didn't come from anyone we know he absorbed from.) He apparently projected himself to the future (time traveling could be responsible for this) and returned with the paper. However, this is where time traveling loses it's validity in this case, he never left where he was standing. According to Adam he seemed to go into a trance. That was it. He didn't vanish for an instant, or even flicker. He was just talking and then trancing and then confused, but holding a piece of paper.

I think the evidence indicates Charles had a form of astral projection.

I always thought that it was either a mix of Angelas and Charles abilities or only charles when it came to the visit in the past and the visit in the future.

Of course it could had been Angelas ability of some short but in the s2 case peter were able to bring something back with him from the future which shows actually that it can't be Angelas ability.

Another thing that indicates that it was charles ability was that charles were able to see peter and know how he went there and how they could communicate while the past peter, angela, simone were there without having a clue.

Actually, it has been established that it was Angela's power.

*does a prander*



Admittedly I could be wrong on the S2 one, but that first instance has pretty much been confirmed by them. So unless they suddenly decide to forget about all of that and backtrack, that's what I'm going with. Though I do agree, Charles seemed to have some kind of mental ability that allowed him to see and speak with Peter.

And I really hope that the sister isn't Sandra because that would just be...yeah.

If you want to see who's playing Angela's sister go to Spoilers in the "Heroes" wiki and scroll down there are two actresses.

http://heroeswiki.com/Spoiler:Heroes

One plays Alice, Angela's sister, as a child and the other plays her as an adult. There is also Spoiler photos you can see here.

http://spoilertv.iimmgg.com/image/df0d3cc6...72ab003960ceb8c

Here's what I think about what might happen. I'm putting this in spoiler quotes, but most is just speculation. I think Alice is Sylar's mother. The image of grown Alice if you look at the big image of her looks like she has a scar on her forehead in Spoiler TV. Also Alice controls weather. I believe she is Sylar's young mother who looks so much like Angela.

WELL here's what i think: in the preview we see angela with a shovel which could mean her sister is dead. now the reason why they couldn't go there with just peter is that they need claire and her blood to resurrect the sister. i dunno. it would be stupid to bring back the blood but i supposed it would be ok if they only used it this once.

It could be that Peter going back in time to talk with Charles and Angela appearing to talk with the sedated Gabriel is the same method, one of Angela's abilities, some form of Astral Projection. And maybe only the person you're visiting can see you (or they need to be asleep or have a certain type of ability to see you).

If you can use by going into a trance and bring small objects back with you, it could also be what Peter did while Adam was looking.

Ah thanks for the clarification!
I must had missed that one so I was still thinking it must have been Charles ability.
Still kinda weird since Charles was the one that said to peter *I know you are there*
without being surprised that the same peter was there twice. O_o

Anyway.. I'm excited to see Angelas sister in both her young and adult ages.
The promo pictures looks great so far and in my opinion she is probably not dead.
Should she turn out to be sylars real mother than she probably survived the attack cause I don't think that she will just appear out of the dead only to create "winds" and go again after everyone is affected by them.

It doesn't make sense that he somehow used precog dreaming to travel back in time, but I'll accept it. (Not much use arguing what the writers have confirmed. And that answer didn't read as sarcasm to me.)

However, the S2 one hasn't been confirmed as Angela's power and would make no sense for it to be. (The kicker is that he actually brought something physical back with him.)

That's the thing, based on that and what we've seen in Eris Quod Sum, there seems to be far more to the ability than just precog dreaming. Just like there's far more to Matt's ability than just reading and broadcasting thoughts. I'd even venture so far as to guess that the astral projection is actually Angela's real ability. There's quite a bit of stuff online on what astral projection in "real life" is supposed to entail (one of which is seeing events in various timeframes) and based on that, I personally don't see it as too much of a stretch.

And there was definitely sarcasm intended. Not directed towards you, but rather at the writers. 'Cause what they say on BTE and what actually happens onscreen isn't always the same thing (case in point, last week they mentioned we'd find out why Audrey wasn't a part of the Fugitives storyline in Cold Snap. And what did we get? Big fat nothing).

As far as the S2 example, I'm totally stumped as to what the ability could have been. I haven't seen the episode in quite a while and didn't recall him bringing something back with him, which is why I thought it was the same case as the Charles one.

But they confirmed the next week it was cut, things like that they have no control over, they only know what they wrote. That scene with Angela wasn't cut, so it happen and they explained it as suck. Still, they said that Sylar lost all his powers at the start of vol 3, except for TK, after the virus and THAT was never explained on screen, so that might be a better example.

Also, when Peter brought back something in his hand that could have been a convo of his power or Charles and his mother's power together.

hmmm - seen some spoilery pix - my theory - fail.

Oh well - seemed like possiblilty

cool i thought it was either angela's or charles power thnx for letting us know XD


i was also thinking this about the blood resurrecting her sister and i read up on her weather control power

also someone wrote this on heroes tv "I wonder if Angela’s sister had something to do with that old newspaper headline that was I believe in season 1 (or maybe it was early season 2) where there was snow in Florida which was said “That could have read Tsunami wipes out east coast.”

i like that theory

We've never seen Clair's all purpose magic blood used on someone dead. Special or not. If that's true they could bring back anyone who's ever died. If it applies to Specials only. It means they could ressurrect everyone Sylar's killed or any Special. It would be opening up a can of worms. I can hear the groans and howls from here already if they do that.

I still think the consequential way the show depicts the different powers very strongly implies it was Angela's power in both cases. Both scenes were very similar to the prophetic dreams he had.

I never had a problem with that and I don't think it doesn't make sense. Angela's power is dream based but we never got a specific definition of what she can exactly do in her dreams. We have yet seen her having symbolic dreams as well as acurate ones and we have been shown she es able to communicate with other people being asleep or unconscious through her dreams. Having a dream of Charles in the past may just be another aspect of it.

I also still think they never would have given Peter two unexplained powers which he constantly used over two seasons before we got explanation about their origin. People were quite busy with arguing about only one.

Angela has precog dreams. She can interact with them, which is the reason I can accept that Peter's trip back to Charles in S1 was a use of her power. (Although it's not really making sense, but I can twist it around so it does...sort of.)

But Angela's dreams are, nonetheless, dreams.

What Peter did in S2 was not a dream in any way. It was real. He went there, but never left the present, and returned carrying something from that future. Angela's power cannot be contorted to explain it.

Charles was dead when peter spoke to him in that dream and before he died he told Simone that he had been flying around with Peter so I really don't know but Charles did have a power and peter would have absorbed it so thats how i rationalize the whole paper from the future, then again he could have Time Traveled there and back just returning the same moment he left, i dont know




What always confused me about that scene was when Sylar said he didn't have his power Angela said she wouldn't be there if he didn't

Angela was telling him that he could pretty much do what she was doing when she appeared in his dream, namely, bypassing the power blockers on the cell. And he went ahead and did that by breaking out and going to rescue Peter.

I'm thinking its millie. Why bring a new actor in for just one scene and have such a dramatic conversation.

Well she's a friend of Fuller's andHe has a great idea for vol 5 for Millie.

wow nice that fuller has a great idea for millie in vol 5 i like her character and actor herself because of liar liar XD

People tend to explain this scene with astral projection. Actually it's not a very far step from lucid dreaming to that.


I stick to it: Whatever Charles's power was, Peter has never used it. Merely out of reasons of proper story telling.