The character's 18 years old and you have to be 21, right? She shouldn't be in a bar she's too young to consume alcohol. What's your take?

In the States? Yes. She's too young to drink outside the home and unsupervised.

The legal age in Mexico is 18.

Hasn't stopped her before. Remember season one?

I don't think she is 18 yet. Her 17th b-day was in S2 (getting the Rogue which was shortly thereafter stolen). I am not exactly sure how long it's been in the Heroes timeline but defintely not more than a few months. As a role model for teens, it was probably not the best move. However, Claire can't get drunk it seems so the effects parents worry about (addiction, gateway drug, poor decision-making) aren't there.

Good point, the timeline is skeward, so we really don't know if ahe's 17 or 18. They should've written in an 18th
birthday so we know exactly if she's legal.

She said that she was 17 at the start of the volume. So, people in Mexico can drink at 18, that's cool. Here in Canada, the provinces determine the drinking laws and here in Ontario, it's 19, while in Quebec it's 18. The other provinces and territories are also either 18 or 19 years of age. It's a shame that Americans have to be 21, at least if they live close to the Canadian or Mexican border, they don't have to worry about the 21 rule. Claire seems to have shown that

I do believe that it's illegal for an 18 or 19 yr old to cross the boarder and drink... May be wrong, but I think in terms of drinking, you have to be 21 if your from America (unless with your parents maybe?) Though if you guys came here, you'd still have to be 21... America is real screwy when it comes to the drinking age.

I think the drinking age needs to be lowered.

My hunch is that there are a few bars in Mexico that don't strictly enforce the drinking age, regardless of whether or not Claire is of legal drinking age.

I'll let the Heroes fans from Mexico verify that though.

Actually, it's not illegal to cross the border and drink. Once you're out of the US, you're out of US jurisdiction and anything you do, provided you follow the laws where you're visiting, is out of US Government hands.

As far as I know, she's 17. If the drinking age in Mexico is 18, then yes, she's too young.

Actually, her age is a question mark.

http://heroeswiki.com/Claire#Notes

If we accept that she was 17 toward the end of '06..she could easily be 18 now. (Mid-Late '07. I'm not sure 100% where we are in the year.)

hmmm, good to know Synch. Canada it is!

I think the point is mute since she can't get drunk.

No she is 17 rewatch the episode where claire and mumma make the fake id...


When claire says he's my BF and we are having sex. Sandra said you know my daughter is only 17..


So she is only legally able to drink in like ireland.


And really mexico wouldn't care if she was drinking as long as she has american cash they will turn and look the other way/.




I used to live in minot north dakota and when anyone turned 18 we would drive a few hours into manitoba and some other places and get trashed. God i love canada, but your ketchup tastes so weird/different

Like I said, her age is up in the air.

The word you're looking for is moot, btw.

And she can get drunk, it's just that her power speeds recovery from the state of drunkenness to that of sober.

(and completly unrelated but i got the sense of deja vu posting this )

How can she get drunk? If that was going to happen, it would have happened during the drinking contest. And it didn't. (She didn't even think to act drunk until the frat boy told her she should've been wasted.)

Meh, I only know one or two people who actually waited until they were 18 or 21 or whatever before they started drinking. It's no big deal to me, just the norm.

I could've wrote that scene myself. I saw it playing out just as it did as soon as Nathan joined in. I knew Claire would end up drinking them all under the table given her power, to not get drunk.

Im pretty sure the writers didnt care what age she is suppose to be. The entire reason drinking has an age limit is because of its effects on our bodies. Claire's power stops her from becoming intoxicated. Therefore there is no reason she needs to follow the laws around drinking.


Last time I checked no one got nit picky about all the laws Nathan broke flying over the us/mexican boarder. He must have broken a ton of FAA laws flying around. I just think its so funny that this is what people pick out haha.

My bad. I is an English Major .

yup.

Wasn't it just about 3 weeks ago that Sandra told the boy who could breathe underwater that "Do you know that my daughter is 17 years old?". She told him this because Claire was covering up for him being in her bedroom so she told her mother that they were having sex. Since Claire didn't deny her age, as of 3 episodes ago she was 17.

And she spent S1 bouncing between 15 and 17. As of right now, I'll accept that she's 17. But we're likely to see that change again any day now.

who didnt drink when they were a teenager?

A large number of us, actually.

Me and I still don't drink. Dont like the taste of alcohol.

Anyway it was her dad that started the drinking contest and the group of guys had already bought the stuff. So im sure no one at the mexican bar was going to care if Claire stepped up for a rematch, plus she is not buying anything from the bar so there is no reason to card her.

I didn't have my first drink till I was 17. It was a beer at my sisters wedding. I also had small sips of beer as a kid. I once had a big gulp of beer as a kid and my sister yelled to my mom that I was drinking beer and I stopped So I think I succeeded Claire in a sense

Her age is seriously just a joke now on the show. I like to go with 17, birthday in March.

Anyway. So she wouldn't be legal even in Mexico but still, a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do, and as a fugitive with her dad, that was her first thought.

It's irrelevant because she can't get drunk, so...I REALLY don't care.

BUT...why do guys keep saying she was drinking in season one? I have nooooo recollection of that. If you're talking about the bonfire, she wasn't..was she?

Pretty sure that was beer in those plastic cups.

I think she alluded to that in the way she confronted Brody the next day at school

Oh

I thought she was just lying, lol
Claire, you've been a naughty girl

That was my impression, as well.


Not to mention ALL the laws Micah has broken and will break, especially the "hacking" into government computers.

Micah doesn't hack... he merely holds conversations with computers. He can't help it if they like him

Actually, that's the impression I got too. When helping Niki go after Monica, he specifically said that he "asked" the lights to change and let them through.

Teenagers drink when your 17 you drink.
In Canada its 18 in quebec so its not that big a deal.
Plus her and her mother made fake ids. Claire isn't fully aligned with the laws now is she. Umm blowing up planes and everything.

America is very consistent with the drinking age: it's 21 everywhere. The Federal government uses road money to blackmail the states into consistency. Might be dumb, and against the 14th amendment, but it's consistent.

American minors can legally go to Canada to drink, but they better be REAL careful when they come back. The Border Patrol is infamous for giving local police the tag numbers of minors who've been drinking over there. If you're under 21 in Michigan, home to the busiest border crossing in North America, the legal BAC is .01.

She told other kids she was too drunk to remember the night Brody killed her, so we can assume she was drinking. She might even have been drinking the night she and West got the cheerleader busted for drinking.

To hold Claire up as a role model to kids is stupid. Drinking doesn't even make the list of dangerous things she's done.

Really. Do you speak for everybody?

And...Claire didn't blow up that plane. In case you missed it, that was all on Peter.

I second that and here are a few very dangerous things she has done:

Jumping out of a window from a height that would likely kill everyone else.
Cutting her toe off
Getting hit by a car
Putting herself very near a nuclear explosion
Getting the top of her skull cut off
Steping onto train tracks and nearly getting hit by a train
Dying more than once

she has...lets, say...hehem...issues.
i mean, a psycologist would have a field day with her.
-irrational suicidal impulses
-incest feelings
-trama(from sylar whacking open her brain)
-and clinical level narcissism

Suicidal? Where do you get that? She was never trying to kill herself. It's only suicide if death is the intent. Instead, she wanted to know what she could do.

Incest feelings? Dude, only the freak slashers have been involved in that. There's never been even the remotest hint of incestuous feelings in her relationship with Peter or anyone else in her family.

Trauma? Absolutely. But wouldn't anyone?

Narcissism? Where exactly are you getting that? All she's ever wanted is to be a normal teenager. And..she isn't thinking she's a target for all this weird crap. She actually is.

Actually, I'd say season one with her various "attempts" were implications of suicide. But still, I say nay to incest. She just loves her uncle...like an uncle. Interesting note on the narcissism, and trauma is an understatement as to the crap that has happened to her.

Hell, it makes me wonder why she's not stuck in a bottle of rum all the time, like Adam Monroe circa 1671.

(And on a personal note, I'm a 19 year old college student, and I don't drink.)

I remember when people made a big deal about her sticking her hand down a garbage disposal in season 1. I think, honestly, if people are going to pick a rolemodel they wouldn't pick a fifteen-seventeen year-old, immortal, mary-sue (okay maybe this is one step toward teenage girls modeling themselves after her), annoying as heck cheerleader -- if they do, then the world is... DOOMED!

Actually that whole 18 thing in mexico is more a guideline. In more poor parts of mexico their rule is "If your head is high enough to see over the bar, you can drink"

A friend, my dad, and myself went to rocky point when I was 15, my buddy josh was 16, and they let us drink, didn't even ask how old we were. (maybe american money had something to do with it too, lol)

When I said blow up a plane I did mean literally.
But, she did hijack a plane sorta.
Plus she's harbored fugitives and serial killers.

In order for them to be implications of suicide, the intent would need to be death. Again, that was never the intent.

What she did was no different from, say, Daphne springing alongside a train or Nathan seeing if he could outfly a 747.

Her intent was to see if she could kill herself.

No, her intent was to see the extent of her ability. You can't give motives to a character with no basis- and she repeatedly said in S1 that she wasn't sure how far her ability went.

The intent was never death.

By trying to see if she could kill herself. Especially in the train scene last season.

Train scene wasn't suicidal intent either. Again, the intent has to be death for it to be suicide. She knew she could come back, so she never intended to die.

The train scene was just to see if it would hurt.

Um, Claire was very suicidal at the beginning of season one. She really discovered her ability by trying to kill herself.