Did anyone else notice Angela smiling when Sylar as Nathan was on the TV at the Diner? What is that about? I hope she had a dream that her boys take out Sylar and save the world. What else could it be?

Angela smiling when Sylar was on t.v. impersonating Nathan? Any guess at why?

She can dream the future.


5YG? What was that? Oooh right..the future!

Well, it could be that she is thinking that this is what they need to bring them together. The timing was perfect.

During which season again?

Angela wouldn't be smiling if 5YG was coming true. She would be smiling if she dreamed Nathan and Peter team up and take out Sylar, and that will make me smile, too.

My only gripe is that I want Peter to get his full powers back so we can get a full-on Dumbleddore V. Voldemort type of battle. I know it won't happen but I can dream. lol

I like that. Afterall she still considers him as her son and a family member...right?

Well, since the powers that be said he needed to get back his empathy, and he seems to be doing that, he will get his powers back and we'll get that epic battle between good and evil. We can always hope.

True they did say the fans wouldnt like the outcome didnt they? Wonder how many people wouldnt like that outcome?

Maybe she dreamed about Nathan getting killed, and realized that it might not be him.

Epic battle with Peter and Sylar is much needed. Sylar has become too power and too cocky, he needs to be put back into place. Plus, this season is lacking in the ability usage area.

that's a possibility and makes a lot of sense. Also it would be kind of unexpected since they're trying to make us think Nathan's the one who's gonna die already, anybody else would be a twist.

As for an epic battle, it's just gonna be an interesting meet and greet when Nathan finally gets back to Washington. He and Sylar have never officially met in real life ...

i can't believe i'm reading this in a post-"cold snap" heroes discussion. i personally hope sylar only keeps getting stronger. i want a formidable foe our heroes have to TRULY team up against to take down.

Angela's smile was quite strange.

My immediate thought.

I can see definitely see that as a possibility.






Haha true, but I don't thing she would be smiling so serenely at the impending doom that means..unless it marks the beginning of the end, and finally allows everyone go back to their lives...still I don't think I'd be smiling

it's sick to even think this.. but after seeing how warm she was with sylar last volume, maybe she's just pulling a fast one on her sons all over again? is there any possibility that she understands that sylar may be more fit as president than her own son? maybe she's seen what is to come, the 5YG future version 2.0, and just accepts it? i have angela-trust issues.

I was creeped out when Angela smiled. The thought that she dreamed Nathan died and is thinking that it might be Sylar instead of her son that dies didn't cross my mind. I hope you are right.

I, for one, would love an outcome where sylar tk's the perverbial bucket. He's almost at a point where he's reached ultimate power, and then he's gonna fall, hopefully breaking his neck and or getting his brain popped out just so he can stay down.

Maybe she was just inappropriately remembering a funny joke at the time...

I agree with the statement that she smiled because she dreamed of Nathan doing something bad, or something bad happening. Her seeing Sylar as Nathan let her know that it wasn't her Son.

WOW. What a thought. A VERY intriguing possibility.

Well, it was a "knowing" type of smile, and given all the emphasis on her dreams they've had so far, I expect we were meant to notice that and wonder what's going through her mind, increasing our anticipation for next week's episode. It may be one of those things that's ultimately just a dead-end "Angela mystique" motif, like "You do realize you've opened Pandora's box" and "Mysterious whisper in Nathan's ear about the game changing," neither of which was ever explained.

Also, at least to some extent, she may have just appreciated the irony of having the real Nathan right there saying he was going to go back to Washington and make amends for his wrongs, and then that very moment seeing "Nathan" on TV doing just the opposite.

I think she was worried that her son was going to continue down his path of destruction and keep rounding up HEBs for the government and saw that speech in particular. She then knew it couldn't be her son since he was sitting at the same table as her. It could have also been she saw Nathan die in her last dream and it gave her a sense of relief that it may not have been him she saw in her dream. Remember her dreams don't always happen the way she sees them and are open to interpretation.

you forgot baby touch and go.

I thought hiro would forever be powerless, good to see that i was wrong.

Ooooh, great idea. I was thrown off when I saw her smile, but that's a great explanation!




I hope not! But after the last "Behind the eclipse" said we were going to learn "a little" of what Angela whispered into Nathan's ear and, sorry, as much as I'm out looking for everything on the Petrellis, I didn't get anything, I fear it might be another Pandora's box issue.

Hey, I was fine with the socks being a mystery. It's nice that that's explained, but there are other things a lot more badly in need of being explained.

I assumed it was because she knew it would bring Nathan and Peter (plus Claire) together to take Sylar down. I kinda hope it's not that "she thought Nathan was going to die, then realized it can't be him. Otherwise I'm pretty sure, having previously thought Nathan was going to die, that she would have done something fairly obvious to prevent it.

Anyone think the end will be Peter with a gun, with two Nathans to choose to shot and kill...

Shouldn't be too hard. Which one can fly and which one can do everything but fly..

No. In "Dual" she says that, and Sylar knew she was lying. She then told him the truth "I wanted to use you like a weapon."

Unless Sylar uses his TK to route Nathan to the spot, and uses it himself to levitate....

thats an awesome theory dude love it!

I don't know why, but I immediately thought that as well. As if she was like "Oh snap, maybe it's the Sylar-Nathan, not my Nathan-Nathan that (gets shot as in S2 or dies some other way)."

I like that theory.

I also like to think that her dreams had already told her that Sylar was going to impersonate Nathan, and the smirk was more to herself after Real!Nathan said the he would go back to Washington only for Claire to point out Sylar!Nathan on TV.

The problem with that is its still confirming one way or ther other. If Peter wins there'll be a lot of unhappy Sylar fans, if Sylar wins there'll be a lot of unhappy Peter fans. People like me who like them both don't really know how to feel!

Except its been established that Sylar has been going out posing as one of the agents and harvesting abilities off-screen! Flight may be a possibility by now.

Does anyone else think that Heroes is getting closer and closer to "Final Destination"?

Nathan was supposed to be dead in the 5YG future, and fate has certainly made a point of getting at him again...

At first I thought you meant extravagant deaths!

Yes I do see the similarities. I didn't really put those together until you mentioned it though.

Well, it's been established that history has a way of happening no matter how hard you try to change it ...

I love the thought of the future being unavoidable, with some parts being different, but others being oh so deliciously the same. I still am betting that the Heroes will avert disaster once more, but it is nice to see that nothing is for sure.

im with you mate i love the evilness in sylar and TK!! and i love peter's humbleness, kindess etc

Looked like pride . . . lost in the moment? We'll see where this goes ?

Maybe we wouldn't like the outcome of this Peter vs. Sylar fight because not so much epic battle but after a bit of fighting they just talk it out have a character moment in regards to what's happened in Season 3 and decide to work together. Probably just wishful thinking--then both my favorite characters are ensured survival (and team awesome) for next season.

I think that was it too.
Pure and simple.

Angela was just like ".. :3 Told you so".

actually, i remember that confrontation in "dual" more like this:

sylar asked if angela was his mother, then warned her that he would know if she was lying before she answered. then angela broke down and admitted to only manipulating sylar because she dreamt he would save the world. who is to say that she didn't have another dream proving that the sylar-as-nathan-as-president future was much brighter than the nathan-as-president future. like i said in my earlier post, i never really trust angela.

Nope, Nuclearpunch. Angela admitted first that she wanted Gabriel to take her sons places, as they were disappointment. But Sylar recognised this as a lie. She clearly says:
"I wanted you to work for the Company. You had a skill that I needed." "Did you saw me as a hero?" "No. As a killer, a monster. You were flawed, weak, malleable, someone I could manipulate."
That's all. Nothing about Sylar saving the world.

As for Angela's smile... I can see two possibilities: she saw Nathan die, or she saw him do something terrible. In both cases seeing Sylar in Nathan's form could have been a great relief.

BINGO! Thats what I was thinking!

Well, the next volume is supposed to be called "Redemption."

I just had a thought earlier this morning.

Everyone was sitting at the table talking about keeping knowledge about people with abilities a secret.
I started thinking that Angela smiled because she remembered that Sylar was working with Danko.
Sylar could easily kill Danko and then anyone else necessary to keep the secret safe.

Sylar likes to kill so let him kill to keep the secret safe.
Angela's life just got a lot easier. big smile.