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sylarish
Is it just me or did Sylar seem teary-eyed a lot in this ep? This is not something I am use to seeing. Any thoughts?
Synch
I think it's because everything's sort of rattling around in his head right now. He's losing himself, losing his way, and he doesn't care for it.
Sylarhasmyheart
That and he never did deal with the guilt he feels from killing his mom. This episode was him dealing, in a very creepy way, but dealing. That, and he's all alone, no one loves him. It must be hard. He's shown that he wants family, and acceptance, and he'll never get it.
IGotSuperPowers
I wanted to give him a hug. =[
feral
D'aaaw, poor baby. sad.gif
flamecrow
he turned emo
paigequinto
yup. he was definately tearing up when he was in danko's office, and i think he was crying when he kicked out micah.
Petrelli048
I noticed that a lot last night in how he was crying a lot. I think Sylar is starting to realize that he needs a family and the love what a family can bring. I felt bad for him but he's made some terrible mistakes along his journey. Even killing Nathan Petrelli(if that is the case) won't set him free from being a lost soul. I wouldn't be surprised to see Peter actually be the one to end it all and take down Sylar since he'll never change now.
godiva
QUOTE (Sylarhasmyheart @ Apr 20 2009, 11:57 PM) *
That and he never did deal with the guilt he feels from killing his mom. This episode was him dealing, in a very creepy way, but dealing. That, and he's all alone, no one loves him. It must be hard. He's shown that he wants family, and acceptance, and he'll never get it.

Sylar never dealt with seeing his father kill his mother - he submerged it. Sylar never dealt with his uncle abandoning him either. Sylar never dealt with his real father trying to kill him a few weeks ago. Who knows what else Sylar never dealt with in his past. This is in part why he is like he is.

He has failed at being able to do as he instructed Luke to do -- and he has let emotions get in his way. He also has been unable to follow Samson Gray's advise and still is "looking for that connection" to people. He cannot get rid of the Gabriel in himself.

Sylar has cried before. He cried when he absorbed Elle's power empathically and when Mohinder wouldn't give him the list of specials.
Leek
He has cried before, so it isn't something new. He can be a really emotional guy.

But yeah, when Danko came into his office i was most apparent. I was like "Sylar! No! Of all people..do NOT cry in from of Danko"

I mean, I find it hysterical. Of all the people Sylar has found himself sort of teamed up with through out the show, the ONE person he needs to get a pep talk from when he is crying and all mopey is Emile Danko. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
Phoebegirl319
Sylar's always crying. Probably because he realizes he's a lunatic.
feral
QUOTE (Leek @ Apr 21 2009, 02:47 PM) *
He has cried before, so it isn't something new. He can be a really emotional guy.

But yeah, when Danko came into his office i was most apparent. I was like "Sylar! No! Of all people..do NOT cry in from of Danko"

I mean, I find it hysterical. Of all the people Sylar has found himself sort of teamed up with through out the show, the ONE person he needs to get a pep talk from when he is crying and all mopey is Emile Danko. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif


Lol, yeah, I found it kind of funny that he kept going to him for fatherly advice. It's sad, Danko's like the closest thing he has to a friend right now.
Zahrahk
QUOTE (IGotSuperPowers @ Apr 20 2009, 10:04 PM) *
I wanted to give him a hug. =[


Yeah, we've learned that hugging isn't a good idea!

ARTHUR: Give me a hug (Peter hugs him. Arthur takes Peter's power)

NATHAN: Give your brother a hug (Peter hugs him. HRG stabs him with a tazer)

Something tells me hugging Sylar means u have no brains. And now you're going to have even less brains once Sylars done with you... LOL
paigequinto
QUOTE (Leek @ Apr 21 2009, 05:47 PM) *
He has cried before, so it isn't something new. He can be a really emotional guy.

But yeah, when Danko came into his office i was most apparent. I was like "Sylar! No! Of all people..do NOT cry in from of Danko"

I mean, I find it hysterical. Of all the people Sylar has found himself sort of teamed up with through out the show, the ONE person he needs to get a pep talk from when he is crying and all mopey is Emile Danko. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

I thought it was really cute. like in an "aww a lost puppy" cute kind of way.

QUOTE (Zahrahk @ Apr 21 2009, 08:54 PM) *
Yeah, we've learned that hugging isn't a good idea!

ARTHUR: Give me a hug (Peter hugs him. Arthur takes Peter's power)

NATHAN: Give your brother a hug (Peter hugs him. HRG stabs him with a tazer)

Something tells me hugging Sylar means u have no brains. And now you're going to have even less brains once Sylars done with you... LOL

I'd hug him anyway!
sweetdreamer
Haha! All Sylar has to do it tear up and we come running. smile.gif But yes. He did cry a bit in this episode... And it was freaking beautiful. Maybe I'm weird, but there's something sexy about it...

But aside from the sexiness, I love this emotional side to him. Sylar really is a very emotional character. There are so many places to go with a character like that. And an actor like Quinto who can depict it all.
DoctorClaude
Sylar's been through a lot lately. Notice that he got the most pleasure this week going back to his old way of sawing the top off of someone's head, and looking at Danko's watch.

The watch moment actually really touched me. It shows that Sylar has so many problems that you can understand why he's done all the awful things he has.
squidgebub
I think it's just that his new shapeshifting power makes his eyes sweaty...

sylarish
It's kinda nice to see the emotion behind Sylar's actions, instead of the cold sarcastic killer we usually get to see. Zach Quinto did an amazing job.
Leek
I mean, let's not kid ourselves. The emotion is only for him. He feels sorry for himself. And he still is going around killing people.


But it was still adorable and it seems like everyone melted equally. How sick is that laugh.gif
Petrelli048
I like to believe that when Sylar was questioning Angela Petrelli about his real parents he started to cry when he found out she knew all about his parents. More and more though I am starting to believe if Sylar could become Nathan then he must think all his problems will go away but I don't think they will.
FMYBella
He also cried in the Hard Part and Our Father.I think he has cried nearly as much as Claire...

Zach plays the character so beautifully you really love to hate him, but I did feel kind of bad, I mean there is just no going back from what he has done. Elle was probably his only chance to get that family he wanted.
HeroesLifeGirl
QUOTE (sweetdreamer @ Apr 21 2009, 08:27 PM) *
Haha! All Sylar has to do it tear up and we come running. smile.gif But yes. He did cry a bit in this episode... And it was freaking beautiful. Maybe I'm weird, but there's something sexy about it...

But aside from the sexiness, I love this emotional side to him. Sylar really is a very emotional character. There are so many places to go with a character like that. And an actor like Quinto who can depict it all.


I agree I find it sexy as well... funny thing... before this volume I did not like either sylar or peter and now both of them are my two of my faves because of the vulnerability and struggle they have shown with both of them all season. Duel completely changed my opinion of Sylar, and this entire volume has been awesome to watch Peter actually grow up and yet struggle.

Ironically both of them have kinda been struggling with the same things but for different reasons. If anything maybe the two of them should be having the heart to heart next week, not Sylar and Claire..

I can just picture it now, the two of them in a bar nursing a beer talking about how much their families suck and how's it's screwed them up for life.. tongue.gif

If they weren't in an eternal power struggle, they would actually be pretty good besties!

*waits for all the sylar and peter fangirls to come after me with pitch forks and rope to burn me at the stake tongue.gif*
waiheke
i don't know what i am missing,but it seems to me, that feeling sorry for for sylar is like feeling sorry for that kid who shoots cats for fun...or profit i guess, in the case of the gummo kids.
Petrelli048
Can Sylar really redeem himself is the question? Taking Nathan's life won't bring him back to where he used to be. He is becoming more and more the tragic hero of this whole story. I knew when ZQ became a regular that they decided to have at least one tragic hero storyline. Sylar will really die eventually, he has to since that is the only way to kill a tragic hero. Like his real father told him "that he will be alive longer means he has to suffer more". Sylar maybe is realizing also that it was stupid of him to take Claires power since he is not getting any satisfaction out of it except coming back after dying when he really wants to die.
ShinyHunter
Sylar would have certainly have to do a lot more than just cry and feel bad to be redeemed. Maybe if Danko somehow had Noah, Angela, Peter, Nathan and Claire in a life or death situation and Sylar came in and saved them. And even then they probably wouldn't forgive him because all of them (besides maybe Angela who can dream to see what he does next) know how he is - that even when he's being good it's usually to benefit himself in some way. It really makes me wonder how that future where he was a good person and had a son was even possible.

QUOTE (HeroesLifeGirl @ Apr 22 2009, 11:49 PM) *
I agree I find it sexy as well... funny thing... before this volume I did not like either sylar or peter and now both of them are my two of my faves because of the vulnerability and struggle they have shown with both of them all season. Duel completely changed my opinion of Sylar, and this entire volume has been awesome to watch Peter actually grow up and yet struggle.

Ironically both of them have kinda been struggling with the same things but for different reasons. If anything maybe the two of them should be having the heart to heart next week, not Sylar and Claire..


I hate to say this but . . . you just realized this now? The Peter/Sylar dynamic has been one of my favorite elements of the show since .07%. When they teamed up for the briefest of periods in Eris Quod Sum I thought I was going to have a heart attack
HeroesLifeGirl
No it didn't just occur to me. They have just been playing more to that dynamic lately then in the past IMO, so that's why I pointed it out... wink.gif
Candice45
QUOTE (Petrelli048 @ Apr 21 2009, 01:04 PM) *
I noticed that a lot last night in how he was crying a lot. I think Sylar is starting to realize that he needs a family and the love what a family can bring. I felt bad for him but he's made some terrible mistakes along his journey. Even killing Nathan Petrelli(if that is the case) won't set him free from being a lost soul. I wouldn't be surprised to see Peter actually be the one to end it all and take down Sylar since he'll never change now.



Sylar's real problem is the fact that there are almost two seperate factes to his personality and both want totally different things. I'm not saying he has MPD (Though it looks like he might now be suffering from it, thanks to his shape shifting. He's at the very least, borderline schizo) but rather there's the man he is and the man he wants to be.

There's Gabriel whose this shy, quiet slightly geeky guy who fixed watches, had a tender romance with Elle, didn't want to blow up New York and went to his mother for comfort. And then there's Sylar, the sarcastic, bad ****** super being, invincible and all powerful.

Time and again he's had chances to build connections with people. Candice, Angela, Arthur, Elle and even Micah are all people who offered him a chance. But every time his obsession with being special and, more importantly perhaps, being the MOST special person around, forced him to either push them away or kill them.

Gabriel, at the end of the day, just wants people to appreciate him. He's a sad, pitiful little boy, still desperate for the love he never got from either his biological parents or his adoptive ones. But at the same time he's addicted to bein Sylar because Sylar, in his mind, is what he needs to be to get that respect. His neurotic mother clearly drilled it into his head that being "Special" was directly tied to how much she loved him so he now thinks that being special is the be all and end all. One has to wonder how much of his attitude when he's "Sylar" is genuine and how much of it is just how he feels he SHOULD act.

Personally I can't see any way out for Sylar at this point. We all know he's not going to succeed in becoming the president and honestly I personally think he's destined to either die or just completely lose himself in one of his other forms. Becoming a nobody again would be a fitting punishment and also, perhaps, the most healthy thing that could happen to him.

I'm wondering if maybe he'll wind up completely forgetting who he is, leading Angela to "Adopt" him, with the hope of perhaps helping him to become a better person. It would be interesting to see and at the same time, would provide drama as there would always be the danger of Sylar remembering who he was and turning on the other characters once more.
SubZero76
QUOTE (flamecrow @ Apr 21 2009, 06:01 AM) *
he turned emo


laugh.gif I was LMAO.
Petrelli048
QUOTE (Candice45 @ Apr 24 2009, 06:47 AM) *
Sylar's real problem is the fact that there are almost two seperate factes to his personality and both want totally different things. I'm not saying he has MPD (Though it looks like he might now be suffering from it, thanks to his shape shifting. He's at the very least, borderline schizo) but rather there's the man he is and the man he wants to be.

There's Gabriel whose this shy, quiet slightly geeky guy who fixed watches, had a tender romance with Elle, didn't want to blow up New York and went to his mother for comfort. And then there's Sylar, the sarcastic, bad ****** super being, invincible and all powerful.

Time and again he's had chances to build connections with people. Candice, Angela, Arthur, Elle and even Micah are all people who offered him a chance. But every time his obsession with being special and, more importantly perhaps, being the MOST special person around, forced him to either push them away or kill them.

Gabriel, at the end of the day, just wants people to appreciate him. He's a sad, pitiful little boy, still desperate for the love he never got from either his biological parents or his adoptive ones. But at the same time he's addicted to bein Sylar because Sylar, in his mind, is what he needs to be to get that respect. His neurotic mother clearly drilled it into his head that being "Special" was directly tied to how much she loved him so he now thinks that being special is the be all and end all. One has to wonder how much of his attitude when he's "Sylar" is genuine and how much of it is just how he feels he SHOULD act.

Personally I can't see any way out for Sylar at this point. We all know he's not going to succeed in becoming the president and honestly I personally think he's destined to either die or just completely lose himself in one of his other forms. Becoming a nobody again would be a fitting punishment and also, perhaps, the most healthy thing that could happen to him.

I'm wondering if maybe he'll wind up completely forgetting who he is, leading Angela to "Adopt" him, with the hope of perhaps helping him to become a better person. It would be interesting to see and at the same time, would provide drama as there would always be the danger of Sylar remembering who he was and turning on the other characters once more.


That would actually be an interesting plot of Sylar losing himself. I wonder if that is going to be involved in his storyline in Season 4. They have already foreshadowed in I Am Sylar, that he doesn't know what he wants anymore. He wants to be loved that's a definite but does he truly want to live the rest of his life as a serial-killer. Sylar never went after the big prey like his father told him to do. He is just using Danko to get smaller prey but I think Danko has been setting a trap up for Sylar since they first teamed up. They say a villain will also die at the end of the season so maybe a big part of Syalr really dies for good.

Peter I know probably wouldn't want to see Angela "adopt" him since it failed the first time around. I like the idea of him getting trapped in someone elses body and living the rest of his life out as that.
IGotSuperPowers
QUOTE (Zahrahk @ Apr 21 2009, 05:54 PM) *
Yeah, we've learned that hugging isn't a good idea!

ARTHUR: Give me a hug (Peter hugs him. Arthur takes Peter's power)

NATHAN: Give your brother a hug (Peter hugs him. HRG stabs him with a tazer)

Something tells me hugging Sylar means u have no brains. And now you're going to have even less brains once Sylars done with you... LOL
pshh I'd let Sylar take my brain. x]
paigequinto
QUOTE (IGotSuperPowers @ Apr 26 2009, 12:09 AM) *
pshh I'd let Sylar take my brain. x]

agreed.
Imthehero
What would you guys do if tomarrow, Sylar showed up at your house, and was like "I saw your post, lets get to it"?
IGotSuperPowers
"WOO!"
=D
I might ask if he's up for having another sidekick. I won't be annoying like Luke, I swear.

Oh and that'd also mean:
SYLAR LURKS!
=O
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