We saw it tonight right when he was in that guys apartment, and we saw it a couple of episodes ago. We all know that Sylar had to have done some side jobs for Danko that were probably deleted scenes..or just not written in the episodes. I think we can agree that something like that is a no brainer. I just want to know how or when did he get it, I don't want to see him pull something else off and i'm wondering "gee how can he do that?"/

Sylar has been able to do this same thing since season 1. (Hiding in plain sight in the Primetech Prison and in Kirby Plaza.)

Shadow Walking. Stolen before Cryokinesis in S1, and held over along with TK past S2, despite what the lying writers on BTE say. --> outside= --> in yer house!

Or might be able to use TK to move himself real fast.

just be patient.

This is how we saw him jump super high in season 1. He grabs onto a spot with TK and pulls himself to it.

He spins the Earth with TK in such a way that allows him to get to where he wants real fast. Also responsible for global warming

A new thought that I've had since meeting Samson Grey: Could this "Shadow Power" be part of IA? IA is a Predators gift. It requires hunting. This Shadow Power works real well with Sylar's need.

A Way to "Hide in Plain Sight", To observe your prey without being observed.

This would explain how Sylar was able to use the "Shadow Ability" to terrorize Claire in the beginning of Vol-3; And again during the showdown at Primatech at the end of vol-3 when he was playing Cat and Mouse with Meredith and HRG.

P.S.- I don't think that Sylar's "Teleporting" is related to his "Shadow Power"; I believe that the Teleporting is actually Astral Projection and was Empathetically absorbed from Angela as part of her Dream Walking Ability.

Interesting.

there is a huge difference between hiding in plain sight, hovering VS passing through solid matter (wall, car, door)

at this point there has to be some ind of teleportation (projection is not possible since he remain tangible)

but he could have picked it up anywhere ... it's his show afterall.

Maybe I misread something somewhere earlier but wasn't how he got the teleporting ability explained in a GN? I don't read them so I don't know.

I do read the GN, and am pretty certain that it has never been addressed in the GN. I was hoping it would be, but not quite.

Someone in the watching live message board suggested it was Rachel, but from the GN she is now underground and working on something with Micah and his REBEL group (have to re-read it but it could also include the underwater breathing kid and the flying kid from last season). I am bad with names, but you know who I am talking about.

I like the shadow walking concept, but that doesn't really get you through walls, but it could explain the Bennet House and Primatech.

As I understand it, Shadow Walking allows you to touch a shadow with any part of your body and melt into it, crossing over into the "Shadow Plane" which slightly resembles our world, only made up of pure shadows. You can then pass through solid objects, like a wall for instance, and emerge from a shadow on the other side. Or you can melt into a shadow, wait undetected, and emerge from the same shadow later on. We've never seen anyone on the show or GN with this ability, but it's certainly no stranger than some of the ones we have seen, and many of his "sneaky" acts are easily explained by it. But , again, I have no evidence, just my opinion and desire to see it!

Sylar didn't retain any of his powers since Season 1. At the beginning of this season, Sylar did some disappearing and re-appearing when he was following Claire in her house. Could be that he has had some sort of power all season that allows this or could have been that he's just quick and sneaky. But with Danko, he got inside and outside of a car without a door opening. In this episode, he got inside the guy's apartment without opening a door and suddenly was behind him. It's either just the way they portray the scene, that he actually used the doors but he's just so quick and sneaky that the other people don't hear or notice him doing it, or he's using a power to do it. Someone asked this on BTE a few weeks ago about the Danko car scene and they said they aren't allowed to answer that question. That makes me think it's a power and that something about it would be revealed in the season finale. Perhaps he's got invisibility? Maybe he killed Claude? There was a mention in one of the GNs about Danko's team having a lead on Claude.

Also useful for spinning the planet backwards on its axis and reversing time to save Lois Lane. Time for some explanations on how Sylar can be in that seimic wave guy's apartment and be outside as agent Talb at the same time.

Wasn't it established that Sylar was outside the whole time, what with him being soaked on the rooftop and all?

no it wasnt.

it might have been implied but not established

Until this season, Sylar has never used Teleportation. And he sure as hell never used Umbrakinesis. And, the other favorite, "Misting" is just ludicrous.

He most probably teleported in the episode. I'll even buy that he teleported in the car. (Whether we find out where this came from is unimportant, actually.)

The Primatech cell? He stood out of sight. Not that hard since the window had a rather large blind spot that he stood in. (Watch the scene. It's painfully obvious.)
Same with Mohinder's apartment in S1, when Peter came in. (If you'll notice, Peter never once looked at the spot where Sylar was, and neither did the camera.)
Kirby Plaza? Again, not that difficult since Peter and Noah walked right past where Sylar appeared...which happened to be right in front of a bloody huge statue thingy that would be remarkably easy to hide behind.

Sylar has never been able to teleport.As the main villain in season 1,the writers gave him a certain sneakiness to enhance the fear he causes in others.In "landslide",Sylar disappeared from a streetful of people.The original plan was to simply contribute this to his "sneakiness",but when someone asked in the following BTE if this was due to his Telekinesis,the writers answered something like this "Umm...,yeah,TK seems to explain it.That's the one we're going to go with,then".Even after season 1,his sneakiness has always been a part of his character.

The scene in the car with Danko was due to his TK.Logically speaking,TK couldn't be used to do what he did,but it was simply presented that way to make Sylar appear creepy.And the scene where he suddenly appears infront of Micah could've been easily pulled off with TK.



Actually,it was impossible for Sylar to stand out of sight once HRG opened the door and walked in.But I think he simply used TK to float above HRG,thus hiding himself from sight even when HRG entered the room.

Impossible? Why?

1: Window had a massive blind spot in that corner.
2: Noah didn't look that way at all until he had pulled down the sheet.

Typhon, BTE is always an unreliable source. someone will write a serious question and those guys will reply with something about Mr. Muggles as always. They also said sylars shapeshifting was based on lycantrophy, thats why he needed to wear different clothes when he shapeshifted but now he's making them appear out of thin air c'mon!!

and I don't buy his ability evolving because the guy he stole it from had a closet full of different clothes, and if he had that ability under control he wouldn't need that closet full of clothes.

I just want to know how is this character doing what he does? the budget can't be that bad to explain this somehow.

If you rewatch that scene,you'll see that:

1)The corner Sylar was standing was right infront of the door,and if he had been standing there the whole time,Noah would've immediately come face to face with him after opening the door.
2)The width of the window was almost as much as the room,making almost the entire room visible through the window.
3)The door was in such a position that the only places not visually accessible through the window would be immediately visible after entering the room.
4)The room was fairly well lit,making it impossible for Sylar to simply hide in a dark corner.
5)In that small a room,if Sylar was standing in a corner,Noah would've immediately realized it.

So it was impossible for Sylar to be standing in a corner and Noah not seeing him,which is why I think Sylar was floating near the roof infront of the door,which would hide him from anyone looking through the window or entering through the door.Later,he simply came down on the spot above which he was floating.

Actually,during that time(S1),BTE was quite reliable.

They said that they wanted the shapeshifting to feel like lycantrophy in response to the fact that the shapeshifter was in pain during the transformation.That comment had nothing to do with clothes.

However,several restrictions placed on the ability has already been removed(the clothing restriction,the pain),which leads me to believe that the writers simply backed out on their initial plan to restrict the ability.

The amount of speculationin this thread is insane.

Shadow Walking?


I read the GNs and the Behind The Eclipse interviews weekly. Ive never hear of this power before. I also read 5-10 comic titles a week and this "Shadow Walking" ability seems kinda ... weak...

Even if Sylard did have this power back in season one, he lost it with all his other powers when he got the virus. The writers said he was rebooted at the end of season one and only kept his original power and TK.

I always assumed (yeah i know, bad me here) that Sylar was using TK to dampen the amount of noise he makes.
If he's able to understand how things work he should be able to silently unlatch open and close a car door
and he can probably float too (no footsteps!)
i mean, we've seen him pin people to walls before.

As much as I want it to be Shadow Walking, let's not forget we've seen other people on the show pull a sneaky entrance (never as often or dramatic as Sylar, but still): Danko shooting Nathan in his office, Claire stabbing Sylar at Primatech, even Angela, when she snuck up on Tracy as she was talking to Arthur on the phone. Like many people on this forum have pointed out, it's very possibly just a dramatic writing tool to make him seem more ominous. But anyway, who do you think he stole Shadow Walking from?

From Mr. Walker (Molly's dad)?
I know, it's terrible pun

I quite like the idea of this power, although a lot of people can move stealthily as you wrote, MagnificoG.

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Just rewatched the scene. Sylar could definitely have been standing out of sight- they deliberately showed that corned to be out of sight from the window. However, when they did show him, he was where Noah had just walked. I'm thinking TK hover makes more sense than any random ability that has never even been referenced.

Does anyone actually believe that we have seen every one of Sylar's kills/absorbtions on-screen? I'd bet My first born that we have not. He telaported "SOMEHOW" with a skill he picked up from "SOMEONE".

As of the last episode, it's obvious he has teleportation. It's equally obvious that he didn't get it from Rachel Mills, as she's alive and well in the GN and iStory.

The writers say he doesn't have teleportation in BTE 21 (I think). So... what's that about?


edit: Was in BTE 20

who cares anymore how or what powers he uses work,the way things are going he will just create sylar earth in an alternate universe and from there ,sylar earth prime,sylar earth B and eventually bizzarsylar world,where he am good and lois am ugly .

How?If he didn't have Teleportation in "Into Asylum" and still managed to get out of the car and up to the roof that quickly,he certainly doesn't need Teleportation to get the jump on Micah or rejoin the team after killing Tom.

Okay...so he didn't have Teleportation at the time of that BTE...he probably doesn't have it now...but he definitely has something. There's no reasonable way for him to do everything he did in the last episode without some kind of ability they haven't shown him get.

I agree. I think the "That's all we can share" is a hint at something. Perhaps they haven't decided what is letting him do it yet...

I guess it might be possible for Sylar to have another ability.I hope he doesn't,although that's just wishful thinking.I still like to think he simply uses TK to be sneaky,but there's no doubt that the writers have pushed this TK sneskiness(if that's what it really is) much further than they should.