Micah was saying that sylar was the only one who can save their kind.. What did he mean by it.. IN all that hatred and killing do we really see sylar as a good guy. He did save Micah by getting thrown in to the fishes that meant that he wanted to know more about how he can save his kind.. Am I missing anything..

i love when Sylar saves people! like luke, that one time.
and Sylar can save them all because he can do EVERYTHING. is there anything Sylar can't do?

Die.

Indeed! He needs to go.

Wah wah I don't like Sylar so I'm going to complain about things that I let other characters get away with. How come Nathan didn't die? Isn't it opportune that someone always ends up saving him at the last minute? I mean Adam's blood? Really? That's lame. And Danko walked in just as Sylar was going to kill him, gee how convenient. Honestly he's been around just as long as any of the other characters and the only difference is that there's been a lot more attempts at killing him.

As far as Micah saying he could be a savior I think it has to do with two things. One, Micah was trying to save his own skin by using the 'you're really a good person' strategy on Sylar. Two, he meant that Sylar could save them all. Sylar has always wanted to be special but maybe he's never considered that being special could mean something positive like helping all the others with abilities. All he'd really have to do is steal Peter's ability (assuming that once he got it, he fixed it so that it was back to absorbing all powers not just one at a time) and fight the hunger.

As stated above, Sylar has the ability (and intelligence) to save the special people with abilities. Sylar is special in that he is multi-talented (even though he killed to get them). Sylar is a one man army.

The only thing Sylar is lacking is a reason to not be egocentric and a moral compass pointed in the right direction.

I would love for Sylar to become THE reluctant Hero just so he can continue his hunting and rise to power.
(What is the value of a hunter when there is nothing to hunt?)

Optimistic Micah brought up meeting the President but Sylar would have gotten to the oval office eventually on his own.
I thought it was brilliant when Micah showed Sylar it would fit his (Sylar's) purposes to save the specials.

It was quite interesting. I was wondering why he all of a sudden was back on the "I need to become President" horse at the end of "1961". Having the Micah tie in was nice, it went well with the whole theme of Sylar going crazy and channeling his dead mother , and it was one of the most believable plot devices the writers have used this season to get us where we needed to go

At the same time I was cringing when he said it.. I was like "oh Micah, you know not what you do..."

We are heading towards Redemption and I hope this concerns Sylar first: he will save the show!

Yeah, yeah. Deep down he has a heart of gold, hidden by his mass murdering psychosis. I look forward to the next arc where we are expected to forget the many innocent individuals he's killed for no actual reason, seeing as he uses all of three powers (TK, shapshifting, healing) on a regular basis. Please...just leave, Sylar...

gotta agree with ya time for the kefe to get goin'.collecting all these abilities has become tiresome,it often seems to no other end other than elimination of characters who seem directionless.

Yea, Sylar killing Clint Howards character sure served no purpose. It didn't show us that he has become bitter over hiding. It didn't show us that Sylar was planning on changing the plan on Danko. Heck, it didn't even show us that scene where Sylar was actually taunting Danko about his artwork on the wall. I mean seriously, all it really did was reveal that Sylar was back, and set up the Sylar/Danko fight, and that was only important enough to be the cliffhanger ending. What a worthless series of events.

And slipstream, if you think Sylar kills just for abilities, i have to doubt whether or not you have been paying attention to the plot. Sure it was way back in Volume 3, but he had this Hunger, and it made him want to kill people, even if they had crappy abilities. It's ok though, I'm sure you just overlooked it because you wanted to talk bad about a character you dont like.

Well, you know, seeing as the "hunger" hasn't been mentioned in this season, and Sylar is going again with the wanting abilities, I assumed it was yet another aborted arc. I mean, Peter was affected by the "hunger" for about one episode after getting IA (and then completely forgot his "hunger"), so it really just seems that it was a cheap excuse to make Sylar look like a "good" guy. Believe me, there are a million ways to criticize Sylar, I don't need to conveniently forget things.

You're absolutely WRONG.

The Hunger HAS been mentioned in this volume. In Shades of Gray when Sylar's dad is trying to take Sylar's regen he says "It's funny how it comes back, that desire, that hunger."

But it was another Sylar based episode so it's not surprising that you "conveniently forgot."

I'd attribute that more to my non-photographic memory and dislike for Sylar. Believe it or not, just because you can remember each and every line, doesn't mean everyone else can.

I still feel this hunger is a weak motive. Peter was barely affected by it at all. Sylar overcame it in the future. He just doesn't want to overcome it because he likes powers, just as he always has.

I don't remember each and every line. It's a line that would standout as a key point (at least to me) since it confirms not only that they had the same power but that the hunger can be beaten with proper motivation Future Sylar (his son), Papa Gray (his jaded view of life).

If Peter nearly killing Angela and Nathan and beating the crap out of Sylar (who at the time was trying to help Peter) is barely being affected by the hunger, then yes, you're correct.

And just to add another point, Sylar has confirmed that he doesn't just kill for the abilities, but because he enjoys it. Thats why he turned his back on empathy, and went back to the "dark side".

Its ok slip, we get that you don't like or pay attention to Sylar, but before you go bashing him in public, you should make sure you have the facts.

What facts? Reread my first post, the whole point is that Sylar is a bad person and I don't want yet another arc where they try to make him out as a good guy. Part of the reason he kills is for powers, and he doesn't even use them. That's a fact. Not all the facts, but it's still true. And satisfaction is not a reason to kill someone. Hence, no actual reason.


Yes, compared to going on a killing spree, I consider that barely. Afterwards it was never mentioned again. And then he lost it. Barely did anything.

He lost his powers almost immediately after the incident with Sylar and it wasn't mentioned again because he literally had it for less than a day. That's not really much time to go on a killing spree, is it? Considering that he nearly killed two family members in roughly 24 hours I don't see how anyone can say that's "barely doing anything."

I agree that the Hunger was misused in ways in volume 3. Namely, that fPeter made IA out to be the key to stopping his future, only for us to see Peter lose it in the next episode. So that was essentially a waste of time. But the hunger as it relates to Sylar is consistent and was never used as Sylar's excuse for why he's bad. In fact, that he's choosing to not fight the hunger says that he likes who he is and makes him more of a villain.

Otto pointed out (on his review blog) that Sylar doesn't identify himself as a villian. He doesn't actively WANT to do the wrong thing, or ally himself with every evil he sees. Really, he wants to be special, and to have power. That's the core of his motivations. Yes, he does take a sick pleasure in killing (although that could be about death or just control), but he also is attracted somewhat to the idea of being a hero. I think the idea of saving everyone, which would make him draw on his many powers and show off just how special he is, appeals at least briefly to him. I also think that since he's confused about his identity, he isn't sure about not being a savior, in contrast to how sure he was that he would never change when he killed elle.

Micah I think just has an idealistic view of what it means to have powers--he automatically equates that with being good and a hero. Since Sylar doesn't fit that pattern, Micah has to see him as a lost soul or else lose his optimistic viewpoint. Practically speaking also, Sylar COULD save them all, just cause he' awesome

The psychopath is defined by a psychological gratification in criminal, sexual, or aggressive impulses and the inability to learn from past mistakes.

This type of serial killer seeks thrills and derives pleasure from killing, seeing people as objects for their enjoyment. The primary motive of a thrill killer is to induce pain or create terror in their victims, which provides stimulation and excitement for the killer. Thrill killers murder only for the kill; usually the attack is not prolonged.

I don't know about you but that sounds to me like a pretty good summary of Sylar's character. And 'psychological gratification' sounds a lot like satisfaction. He's a psychopathic serial killer regardless of the hunger. Sometimes he kills for the thrill and the ability is just an excuse, sometimes he wants a specific ability and sometimes he wants to have it for the sake of having it.