ClayAikenRocks
Apr 27 2009, 09:18 PM
This is not the negative review thread. List an inconsistency from tonight's show if you can. And the community will figure out if it is one or not. Like reasonable adults hopefully. Obviously, according to what the writers, and the graphic novels have said, Claire's blood wouldn't have worked (since it only works on a person once and Nathan got his dose already). So please, pretty please don't bring that one up.
Anywhoo:
- I seem to recall the writers saying the Object Memory type power that Sylar was given by Mama Petrelli only worked on objects, not people. I could be wrong about this and I am too lazy to check. But if my memory is correct, their prior words were 100% contradicted by tonight's show, as Sylar himself heavily implied he would use the power to get Nathan's memories from Nathan...
- Sylar's magical morphing clothes. Yes, this inconsistency arose earlier, but I am still annoyed they showed the power working one way in the first episodes with the shapeshifter, then showed it working another way in later episodes. Without any explanation. Is there something I missed here or did the writers get lazy?
Feel free to comment or just add to the list.
Synch
Apr 27 2009, 10:43 PM
1: They never said it didn't work on people. In fact, they've made it clear that it does. (A couple times, pre-V4, he used it on people.)
2: Clothes? Again? Not an inconsistency, since the in-show has never wavered on that ability.
capelo30
Apr 27 2009, 10:53 PM
How about the fact that Claire can down Tequilla like its water and Sylar gets "Doped up?"
B.S.
ActingUpAgain
Apr 27 2009, 10:58 PM
QUOTE (capelo30 @ Apr 28 2009, 01:53 AM)

How about the fact that Claire can down Tequilla like its water and Sylar gets "Doped up?"
B.S.
In fairness to the writers, Danko said it was enough to take down an elephant (I'm paraphrasing). And they probably only had him out for 15 minutes or so. Even Wolverine goes down to knockout gas.
Synch
Apr 27 2009, 11:00 PM
Claire can drink booze, but also suffered the ill effects of the tranqs they use. Not an inconsistency.
ClayAikenRocks
Apr 27 2009, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (TrentSteele @ Apr 28 2009, 02:52 AM)

The main inconsistency would be that Nathan's "death" should have been completely reversible without recourse to psychic brainwashing shenanigans like the ones they engaged in. HRG was shot through the eye and out the back of his head at point blank range and was revived with just one bag of Claire's blood; Maya was shot in the chest, collapsed and stared at the camera with the blank "look of death," and was promptly revived with a quick infusion. Evidently, so long as you haven't actually been dismembered or somesuch, Claire's blood will fix things right up good as new. However, it seems the writers are just going to pretend, as with most of Season II, like none of that ever happened.
Thanks for not reading my post. Claire's blood is not actually an inconsistency.
QUOTE (Synch @ Apr 28 2009, 02:43 AM)

1: They never said it didn't work on people. In fact, they've made it clear that it does. (A couple times, pre-V4, he used it on people.)
Did he? Where? I honestly can't think of when he has, so examples would be cool. (And I still remember the writers saying the opposite, but then again, I suppose the writers say lots of stuff that doesn't make sense).
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2: Clothes? Again? Not an inconsistency, since the in-show has never wavered on that ability.
Why was Sylar stuck wearing women's clothing when they first showed him using the ability?
capelo30
Apr 27 2009, 11:18 PM
QUOTE (Synch @ Apr 28 2009, 12:00 AM)

Claire can drink booze, but also suffered the ill effects of the tranqs they use. Not an inconsistency.
I don't think she should have been able to resist either then.
Both are chemicals that warp the mind.
Both are in the blood system.
With her power, her body should have rejected it all.
And while the drugs were enough to down an elephant... That bottle of Tequilla should have been more than enough to down her too.
As for Wolverine...
Well... Does he get drunk? LOL
I just think that the writing on this show has really tanked.
Tonights episode was garbage.
Synch
Apr 27 2009, 11:28 PM
Then go to the Neg Review thread. This was for inconsistencies- and they pointed out, repeatedly, that those tranqs directly target the part that makes a HEB special- Claire can't resist them because they actually target her ability.
Cap10America
Apr 28 2009, 03:26 AM
When the hell did he touch Nathan? He was getting all his info from his clothes and the objects in his office. Same thing he did with Claire, he touched her necklace and "knew" that Nathan and her had been on the run in Mexico. Most of his info he was getting was from the cuff links.
jugador409
Apr 28 2009, 05:38 AM
The writing on this show has gone from bad to worse. This whole season had no real focus or direction. It was just a bunch of random events thrown together without a thought about what has happened in previous seasons. It seems that the writers were going along, realized that the season was almost over and decided, hey we need to end this with the usual Sylar is set on world domination ending because we didn't know where this story was going anyway.
As for the unexplained inconsistencies, the ones I noticed are:
1. Nathan is supposed to be able to heel because he has Claire's blood but he died.
2. Claire can drink without any effects because of her heeling powers but Sylar is brought down instantly with a tranquilizer.
3. Nathan is on Danko's most wanted list but is given instant access to the President without any resistence.
4. Peter's powers change whenever he touches someone with abilities but he keeps them after Claire hugged him.
5. Everyone caught by the government is locked up separately but HRG and Danko are placed in the same holding cell.
6. Sylar pretends to be Danko, shoots some federal agents and no one asks how the agent that caught him appeared in the room to catch an armed man with no resistence.
Sayonara
Apr 28 2009, 05:46 AM
1. No he isn't, he healed once from the blood. Then the blood went (blood is recycled every month or so in the body). Admittedly he healed magically from being shot, but it was never confirmed to be the blood
2. Alcohol digested and a tranquilizer (a strong one at that) in the blood stream are completely different kettles of fish
3. Sylar held a press conference as nathan demanded to see the president, and the President had to see him to keep up public opinion or whatever
4. He can choose when to absorb and when not to. The only time he didnt was on the plane when he was waking up from drugs...
5. They weren't specials, they had no reason to expect them to break out. Plus who says they had any room after all the specials took up so much room
6. Well, because the soldiers that Sylar/Danko shot died, it's not hard to imagine that the other agent managed to sneak up or disarm him and the other soldiers weren't around
tickitytak
Apr 28 2009, 02:17 PM
QUOTE (jugador409 @ Apr 28 2009, 08:38 AM)

none of those are inconsistencies. it's all answered above. i can understand why you think #3 would be one but Danko's organization and the Secret Service are separate. they obviously weren't even aware of Nathan being on the list; he surprised the agents by revealing he could fly.
again, this is an "inconsistencies thread", not to be confused with "negative reviews". also...
*healing
Leek
Apr 28 2009, 02:23 PM
With the clothes thing...
I think maybe he didn't keep his mother's clothes on because he was never really wearing them. I think it was all in his mind. Because he had clearly gone completely insane at that point.
With the objects thing, I think he touched Arthur once, and Claire, and others and got memories from them. I would like if he had to touch objects only, I like limits to powers...but whatever.
tickitytak
Apr 28 2009, 02:27 PM
i have to be honest, i don't remember being told that claire's blood only works once. i'll go ahead and believe it though because i like the idea haha.
the morphing clothes are really the only inconsistency i can recall, considering that ability is blatantly physical. if he can change the clothes as well, then it would be more like casting an illusion or being able to transmorph any object that he touches. it's not too big of a deal though.. it was just for the writer's convenience, and despite how lame it is, i don't mind it that much.
i just wish they would've brought the haitian into it to help wipe out sylar's memories more effectively and not given us that tease showing Nathan fixing his clock. i was hoping it wouldn't be addressed until volume 5 started, gradually showing how Nathan discovers that something is different.
Hawkdaddy
Apr 28 2009, 02:29 PM
Did anyone else wonder why Nathan had to die?
Claire's blood saved Noah and Adam's blood saved Nathan before, so why didn't they just give another one to Nathan?
Leek
Apr 28 2009, 02:33 PM
QUOTE (Hawkdaddy @ Apr 28 2009, 06:29 PM)

Did anyone else wonder why Nathan had to die?
Claire's blood saved Noah and Adam's blood saved Nathan before, so why didn't they just give another one to Nathan?
Exactly, that is what I can't figure.
See people keep brushing it off by saying "Cause they wanted to write out the magic blood since it ticked so many people off"
But in the Heroes-verse, there still needs to be a logical reason. Claire isn't just not going to save her dad because "the writers don't want to"
Synch
Apr 28 2009, 02:37 PM
In universe they bloody well had a logical explanation.
Claire wasn't there- she was running around with Peter. By the time she showed back up, the cover up had already been put in motion.
Xodus
Apr 28 2009, 02:54 PM
QUOTE (Synch @ Apr 28 2009, 06:37 PM)

In universe they bloody well had a logical explanation.
Claire wasn't there- she was running around with Peter. By the time she showed back up, the cover up had already been put in motion.
If that's the case why didn't they just wait for Claire? Also, Peter was the one who caught Sylar so where was Claire during this time and why wasn't she there when the coverup was being set into motion?
Leek
Apr 28 2009, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (Synch @ Apr 28 2009, 06:37 PM)

In universe they bloody well had a logical explanation.
Claire wasn't there- she was running around with Peter. By the time she showed back up, the cover up had already been put in motion.
Do they have ADD? It wasn't worth Angela to chill out for 15 minutes, go get a pepsi from the vending machines? Wait for Claire to come around so that she could save her son's life?
jugador409
Apr 28 2009, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (tickitytak @ Apr 28 2009, 06:17 PM)

QUOTE (jugador409 @ Apr 28 2009, 08:38 AM)

none of those are inconsistencies. it's all answered above. i can understand why you think #3 would be one but Danko's organization and the Secret Service are separate. they obviously weren't even aware of Nathan being on the list; he surprised the agents by revealing he could fly.
again, this is an "inconsistencies thread", not to be confused with "negative reviews". also...
*healing
Actually I posted this in the negative reviews thread but the moderator moved it.
gsofficial
Apr 28 2009, 07:07 PM
Here's an inconsistency for ya: they had the audience vote on a new Hero, and it was some Brazilian kid with a dumb power about probabily or soccer or something... whatever happened to that? He get hit by a car or something?
Synch
Apr 28 2009, 07:14 PM
QUOTE (gsofficial @ Apr 28 2009, 10:07 PM)

Not an inconsistency. Just not paying attention.
He had a special web series last year.
bsrj22
Apr 28 2009, 07:15 PM
A company unsuccessfully tried to capture him.
ClayAikenRocks
Apr 28 2009, 08:03 PM
QUOTE (Hawkdaddy @ Apr 28 2009, 06:29 PM)

Did anyone else wonder why Nathan had to die?
Claire's blood saved Noah and Adam's blood saved Nathan before, so why didn't they just give another one to Nathan?
What the? Another one? How many people are going to mention this when I already dealt with it in the very first post in this thread! I cannot believe so many of you have neglected to read even the first post in this thread.
Malchuth
Apr 29 2009, 01:36 AM
Burning Nathan's body and making him appear like Sylar is not logical at all.
Matt made Nathan look like Sylar but they actually till burned Nathan. Which is in fact a plot hole, because whoever will find the remains/ashes of Nathan will be able to see find his DNA and will be "huh? we've got 2 Nathans"
But of course Matt made the whole world think that it's Sylar. And the CSI:Miami guys will "think" they see Sylars DNA under the microscope.
Sure thing.
Perfect sense.
3ck
Apr 29 2009, 01:57 AM
QUOTE (Malchuth @ Apr 29 2009, 01:36 AM)

Burning Nathan's body and making him appear like Sylar is not logical at all.
Matt made Nathan look like Sylar but they actually till burned Nathan. Which is in fact a plot hole, because whoever will find the remains/ashes of Nathan will be able to see find his DNA and will be "huh? we've got 2 Nathans"
But of course Matt made the whole world think that it's Sylar. And the CSI:Miami guys will "think" they see Sylars DNA under the microscope.
Sure thing.
Perfect sense.
It wasn't Nathan's body being burned. It was actually James Martin, the original shapeshifter, still in Sylar form.
Malchuth
Apr 29 2009, 02:00 AM
QUOTE (3ck @ Apr 29 2009, 11:57 AM)

It wasn't Nathan's body being burned. It was actually James Martin, the original shapeshifter, still in Sylar form.
Oh sorry, probably got something wrong there while watching in anger
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