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Rad
I mentioned this before in a different thread but I can't seem to find it. What if all of this is masterminded by Angela? If she dreamed of a future where Nathan has to die but his body will become Sylar's, then this whole "You are my son" thing is technically true. She may have known that Sylar would become the image of her son, and depending on how long he remains that way (Next season's 1st episode could take place 10 years in the future) she could grow to love him like an actual son. She was willing to sacrifice Peter in season 1, Nathan may have been collateral damage this season. We all know how calculating she can be, so the whole crying and screaming act might have been for the benefit of those watching her.

She said she needed Parkman to save Nathan, he technically did save Nathan since his body is walking around. Maybe Sythan will make the tough choices that Nathan wouldnt and will help put an end to all of the "specials" problems or get them back into hiding and mixing in among us like the good ole days.

This sounds far fetched, but her dream of Peter exploding and following the plan happened well before the events actually took palce, she was talking to Charles about it but I dont know how far in the past that was. She could have spoken to Arthur about it which is why Arthur knew they needed Sylar for everything to work out. Arthur just took things too far and had to be dealt with.

It would be pretty cool to me to have her running the show and have the other belive that they were in control this whole time.

Just my thoughts...
Steamboat
My biggest issue with this hypothesis is that she killed the love of her life to save this same character not too long ago (in show time has only been a couple of years. Couple that with her saying that she doesn't understand because Matt was supposed to save Nathan makes it seem like her dreams have always been symbolic in nature, and she just misunderstood the meaning of the dream. The dreams lead her to make decisions to make those dreams come true. Not always in the way that she thinks. I think that her dreams are almost more counterproductive in nature compared to the precog paintings and such. Its almost like they control her actions to such an extent that it brings about the very things she's trying to avoid.
bbplayer5
Her dreams have never really proven to come true. So I am not sure why she even has a power in the show.
Rad
QUOTE (Steamboat @ Apr 29 2009, 10:24 AM) *
My biggest issue with this hypothesis is that she killed the love of her life to save this same character not too long ago (in show time has only been a couple of years.


Do you mean Arthur? If so, Arthur trapped her inside her own head and wa going to use his powers to destroy everyone. I dont remember how it happened but I think Hiro was the one who killed Arthur, not Angela.

QUOTE (Steamboat @ Apr 29 2009, 10:24 AM) *
Couple that with her saying that she doesn't understand because Matt was supposed to save Nathan makes it seem like her dreams have always been symbolic in nature, and she just misunderstood the meaning of the dream. The dreams lead her to make decisions to make those dreams come true. Not always in the way that she thinks. I think that her dreams are almost more counterproductive in nature compared to the precog paintings and such. Its almost like they control her actions to such an extent that it brings about the very things she's trying to avoid.


Thats what I'm saying, I think she knew the real Nathan had to die in order for Sythan to be born. The only way to have Sylar in Nathan's body was to use Parkman, hence, Parkman saved Nathan. The power she "fed" to Sylar that gives him the ability to see the past of every object he touches, he has never used that power and there was never a reason for him to do so until the last few episodes. If Angela knew that he would have needed this power to suck out Nathan's memories it would make sense for her to "feed" him with this specific ability.

Angela gives Sylar the clairstenece power (sp?), Sylar and Danko team up and Sylar eventually gets the shapeshifting power, Nathan dies after Angela leads the team on an excursion to find her long lost sister for no apparent reason, she uses Parkman to modify Sylar's brain and save "Nathan", Sythan is born, Angela has a new puppet with a bunch of abilities who can someday become president.

QUOTE (bbplayer5 @ Apr 29 2009, 10:45 AM) *
Her dreams have never really proven to come true. So I am not sure why she even has a power in the show.


She dreamed the whole thing with her sister before they went out there, she just didnt think it was possible.
Steamboat
QUOTE (Rad @ Apr 29 2009, 02:48 PM) *
Do you mean Arthur? If so, Arthur trapped her inside her own head and wa going to use his powers to destroy everyone. I dont remember how it happened but I think Hiro was the one who killed Arthur, not Angela.


I do mean Arthur, and while she did not succeed in killing Arthur at the time she thought she had and had the intent to do just that. The only vision of hers that we've seen was highly symbolic. That scene never happened and probably was never going to happen. The vision was telling her how to track down who was going to cause her cause and family the most harm. For some reason she wasn't able to tell Arthur was involved until later. I stand behind my statement that her dream was not exactly how it happened, but the dream led to her wanting to do the thing she did. We won't see the full point of the 1961 episode until next season, but it could have just been for pete and nates information to prove that the company really did have a mission to do right in the beginning.

Saviour
QUOTE (bbplayer5 @ Apr 29 2009, 07:45 PM) *
Her dreams have never really proven to come true. So I am not sure why she even has a power in the show.


Oh, really? So how was it she knew her sister was alive? Or why was she in Coyote Sands being tested time and time again and repeatedly proving that her dreams can be literal? And how did she manage to escape capture in Cold Snap?

What an utterly nonsensical statement to make.
Thief
As she said in the show, the events happening in her dreams always happen, but it's up to her to interpret them in different ways.
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