QUOTE (Sage @ Apr 27 2009, 09:16 PM) 
Seriously- they need to listen to us before they loose everything that made Heroes great. I used to make time to watch Heroes- but now- its only a little better than everything else ive been watching.
They have a bunch of geeks watching- if you can make the geeks happy- you can bet the normal people will be happy too. Why? Because the geeks want everything to make sense - if it makes sense as shown in a story- guess what? Other people will see it too. Things will FIT - things that dont fit together are a natural turn off even when people don't consciously realize it!
When someone says "You cant do that- its not possible" and then next week they do just that - nerds go nuts- regular people get confused. Confused people dont watch tv shows that keep confusing them- thats why they watch "reality shows" - because the idiots watching them are like the idiots in them- they relate to them. No one can relate to stuff that makes no sense! Why do you think people were ****** about Superman 2? That giant plot hole? The one that says s"ooooh- once you do this you will be a normal human and there is NO WAY TO BECOME SUPERMAN AGAIN!" couple scenes later- Superman's back! ... wth!? (Yeah- they cut the scene but even with it- bad writing is bad!)
Defining a plot hole and then making one kills realism- even in a show about people who can fly and eat bullets. All the people to explain things are in play in Heroes- but none of them do anything! It's almost like they are scared to write up some rules- but rules are what they need!
It's like Heroes is an unfinished Role Playing Game - one writer sees it as a low power game- another writer thinks it time to Power Game, another thinks its Advanced DnD (Limited and confusing for new people) - and another person thinks its ShadowRun (High Power, Highly fatal).
Writers! Talk to each other! Give yourselves a scale! Balance it by improving personalities and physical status! If someone has a super strong power- either give it a big draw back or make them too stupid to be able to use it's full potential, someones power is too low- make them rich and or really smart. WEAKNESSES as well as strengths! And never remove a weakness without replacing it with another. If Sylar wants to shift his weak spot (litterally) reduce the efficiency of his regeneration powers! That spot has to be there for a reason- moving it might not be a good idea...
They have a bunch of geeks watching- if you can make the geeks happy- you can bet the normal people will be happy too. Why? Because the geeks want everything to make sense - if it makes sense as shown in a story- guess what? Other people will see it too. Things will FIT - things that dont fit together are a natural turn off even when people don't consciously realize it!
When someone says "You cant do that- its not possible" and then next week they do just that - nerds go nuts- regular people get confused. Confused people dont watch tv shows that keep confusing them- thats why they watch "reality shows" - because the idiots watching them are like the idiots in them- they relate to them. No one can relate to stuff that makes no sense! Why do you think people were ****** about Superman 2? That giant plot hole? The one that says s"ooooh- once you do this you will be a normal human and there is NO WAY TO BECOME SUPERMAN AGAIN!" couple scenes later- Superman's back! ... wth!? (Yeah- they cut the scene but even with it- bad writing is bad!)
Defining a plot hole and then making one kills realism- even in a show about people who can fly and eat bullets. All the people to explain things are in play in Heroes- but none of them do anything! It's almost like they are scared to write up some rules- but rules are what they need!
It's like Heroes is an unfinished Role Playing Game - one writer sees it as a low power game- another writer thinks it time to Power Game, another thinks its Advanced DnD (Limited and confusing for new people) - and another person thinks its ShadowRun (High Power, Highly fatal).
Writers! Talk to each other! Give yourselves a scale! Balance it by improving personalities and physical status! If someone has a super strong power- either give it a big draw back or make them too stupid to be able to use it's full potential, someones power is too low- make them rich and or really smart. WEAKNESSES as well as strengths! And never remove a weakness without replacing it with another. If Sylar wants to shift his weak spot (litterally) reduce the efficiency of his regeneration powers! That spot has to be there for a reason- moving it might not be a good idea...
This is from the neg review topic, but i decided to post it here for all to see.
I agree with this fully since i am also a PnP gamer. ShadowRun is a PnP game based in the future, i played it a little and i know when you make a PC (Player Character) you choose its positive attributes and also negative. For instance if you decide to make your character Very Very fat, he will run a lot slower, and that is just a very simple example.
I have been watching lost a lot lately, and i noticed on the S1 bonus disk they (the writers) said they basically wrote the lost bible. Giving them an idea of what they want to do with the show and what limits they have. That is something heroes needs, they need to understand that it needs to stay constant. Like the claires blood can heal lets just not use it this time.
I really wish they would pick up some character sheets and give them stats powers AND DRAWBACKS!!! I hope they are going to go that direction, with the whole Hiro brain exploding thing. If you have a crazy power like dreaming the future, then it should have a drawback, something to equal it out.. Like you start not being able to fall asleep.
Or super strength since that is a fairly nice power i believe it should come with a draw back like, blind rage or you move slower.
Does anyone remember the GN of the guy at the resturant where HRG takes a bat after some guy who can crush anything with his hands, but has to put his fingers on it for the power to work? That was a perfect power/drawback.
I really hope Kring gets off his high horse and fixes this before it bombs like Misfits of science did which only ran for 15 episodes + a pilot. Seriously Kring if you are going to have great power.. Give them a draw back.. or else the power doesn't mean anything.. At least Sylar had the hunger he was struggling with...
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