Hyperspace
May 13 2009, 09:46 AM
Most have heard the spoiler about hiro from Kristy at Eonline
Hiro will do a lot of time traveling in season 5 which means hiros powers will return. More spoilers related to last.. you are warned!
This I feel is a major push to the season 1 setting of heroes. So if this happens Its not a far stretch to say they will do the same for peter. I think peter has learned a lot since his powers were removed and now knows he can not just rush in and save the day. There are always consequences to your actions no matter your good intensions. In season 1 and 2 every instance time travel was used to save the future it was soon found out that their trying to fix the future is what caused the damage in the first place. Like angela said to future peter in the beginning of season 3 "every bad future I see was caused by you" ( not an exact quote). They have to begin using there powers as tools and not quick fixes. Peters rushing in, without thinking, to fix the future in the opening of the third season is what lost him his powers to begin with. No matter how powerful you are you have to use your head. Angela said in Invisible Thread that she can't change the future she sees just nug the outcome, Hopefully Hiro and Peter learn this lesson and step lightly. Just because you know something is going to happen does not mean you will make it better by changing it. This goes for the future or the past. Hiro traveling back to warn peter about the future in season 1 may have set it all in motion.
If Hiro is to time travel in season 5 (which makes me very happy) he hopefully has learned these lessons an will go back for intel and not to alter anything. With Time Travel back in play the fans can see some other old favorites without resorted to resurrecting dead characters. Peter or Hiro could interact with them but do so without changing any major timelines.
Yes I do tend to ramble but I hope you understand my points
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Hyperspace
RiddlerHanjinome
May 13 2009, 10:33 AM
Given that this has spoilers, it
might be more appropriately suited to the Spoiler section, not sure if you saw it. That's up to the mods, though.

Interesting theory, fwiw.
bbplayer5
May 13 2009, 03:26 PM
I think you are wrong about changing the past. They didnt change the outcome of the bomb at all. Peter was always the bomb. The reason F-Hiro didnt change that outcome was because he thought Sylar was the bomb. If he knew Peter was the bomb, Peter would have been dead right then and there via Hiro. The bomb did go off, just not in the city. Instead of changing the path of the river, they put a bend in it but it corrected itself. Meaning... they didnt do enough to change the direction of the river, just detoured it on its way to the same place.
So treading lightly is the wrong way. They need to think it through like you said and make a HUGE change.
FlyingGirl
May 13 2009, 03:56 PM
Time travel back in the show?
*grins*
I like.
paigequinto
May 13 2009, 06:16 PM
I thought the writers weren't doing that anymore because of plot holes.
whatever- i LOVE time traveling!
Creator
May 13 2009, 06:23 PM
Time travel into the future would work. I think that the paradoxical problems present with travel into the past. But, present to future and back may be the way to go. Maybe that's the current limitation? Maybe this will be part of Hiro's godsend change? We'll see. But, whatever happens, great writing will be the ultimate solution.
Peter regaining his full re-connection was (to me) never in question--that was expected. When, how and why were the questions I had as far as Peter reacquiring his quiver, not if.
p.s,,...have we sprung a spoiler leak?!
thecordler
May 15 2009, 05:38 AM
they did change the outcome of the bomb,
F_hiro directly stated that Sylar was the original bomb, his meddling caused Peter to become the bomb.
Angela and isacc saw the future outcome as a destroyed NYC, one even nudged it to that destiny
Outcome, NYC is still there and standing, it is not a smoldering heap of ash, the future is alterable, it takes hope and courage to stand up and go against time, and change the future.
Angela is wrong about the future visions, they are mutable and they can change, she is living proof.
No virus
No arthur and formula future
Angela's problem is that she doesn't know how to look back, only forward and thus she ignores the blatent facts that the future is not set in stone and the events are muatble.
Creator
May 16 2009, 12:56 AM
Since precog [verbal/written/drawn] messages are open to interpretation, a time-traveling 'temporal-scout' could help to clarify the seers' visions. Their reconnaissance 'missions' could help to "validate" and more accurately interpret what was witnessed by the seers.
Then, by charting an IA-assisted [Snathan] course correction now, the Company 2.0 could hopefully formulate and co-ordinate the necessary concerted effort for successful [preordained] disaster avoidance.
bruno6969
May 16 2009, 01:42 PM
QUOTE (bbplayer5 @ May 13 2009, 03:26 PM)

I think you are wrong about changing the past. They didnt change the outcome of the bomb at all. Peter was always the bomb. The reason F-Hiro didnt change that outcome was because he thought Sylar was the bomb.
F_Hiro said he stabbed Sylar but he healed. This is why he told Pete to save her.
yeslek
May 17 2009, 02:22 AM
QUOTE (bruno6969 @ May 16 2009, 10:42 PM)

F_Hiro said he stabbed Sylar but he healed. This is why he told Pete to save her.
but Hiro still stabbed him and he didnt die
deityshadow
May 17 2009, 08:29 AM
I believe the show is working on a course corrected history, that while certain events can change the 5 years gone doomsday is going to happen no matter how many times they bend the river it's still going to hit that dam.
yeslek
May 22 2009, 12:22 AM
I agree ^
It seems that even by messing or altering certain events, you still cant effect the long term out come, like changing tyre on a car, or the colour paint on the outside, the car will still run the same, it just looks a little different whilst doing it.
I reckon the 5 year gone future will happen just not quite as we thought. Obviously Peter wont have guilt over being the NYC bomb, but what about another disaster he feel's he, or infact actually IS the cause of?...for example. The main gist will be the same, but smaller factors will have changed.
Even now, the second company could be the start of the cause for the Hereos to be wanting to hide a'la Noah (5 years gone)
bruno6969
May 30 2009, 01:46 AM
QUOTE (yeslek @ May 17 2009, 02:22 AM)

but Hiro still stabbed him and he didnt die
But he didn't heal in front of Hiro's eyes either.
Yarr
May 30 2009, 03:43 AM
They better introduce Time Rifts or something to limit all this messing around with space and time. This show needs to better highlight the fact that no one should be running around messing with time.
Make Hiro find out hes destin to become a Guardian of Time and have him protect the flow of time or something stupid like that. I just hate the idea that Hiro is going to run around creating more plot holes.
Hiro should be able to freeze time, teleport and maybe do that reverse time thing he did in Volume 1 to save Ando. Hiro should be able to jump back in time, but as F_Hiro said in season one, every jump in time is a massive risk. I still think Hiro should risks creating a rift everytime he jumps. Hell they could do an entire episode involving Hiro creating a rift and how they have to deal with it and what not. It could be a great story that adds the "uh oh" scare factor to Hiro's actions.
TimeTravelJosh
Jun 1 2009, 11:46 AM
We already have rifts. Hiro and Ando caused the virus to be released by stopping the explosion. Peter caused the formula to leak by stopping the virus. Future Peter caused the Level 5 escape by trying to stop the formula. Peter caused Nathan to turn on the specials by destroying the formula.
And what plot holes?
BlazinAsian
Jun 1 2009, 12:35 PM
Did Pete stop his scar?
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