Synch
Sep 21 2009, 06:34 PM
I'm thinking there was definitely another affair going on.
Oh...puns welcome, by the way. lol
Typo21
Sep 21 2009, 06:34 PM
Nah. I don't think so. At least I didn't get that vibe.
But, I understood where Matt was coming from.
revel911
Sep 21 2009, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (Synch @ Sep 21 2009, 10:33 PM)

I'm thinking there was definitely another affair going on.
I think it was totally innocent "this time," but because of what happened last time, Matt is just paranoid.
Leek
Sep 21 2009, 06:46 PM
Yeah, he looked really young, and keep in mind she has been single for a while with a baby, so it was probably nice to have a consistently friendly face. But I didn't get a sexual vibe from it at all.
But who can blame Matt for being suspicious? I commend him for not reading her mind about it. For real.
paigequinto
Sep 21 2009, 07:03 PM
Nah, janice wasn't gettin it on with the water guy... He was too cool with matt- someone young would be totally weird around the person who's being cheated on, right? I know I would.
It was just Sylar making Matt paranoid to provoke him to use his powers, thats all.
byerly724
Sep 21 2009, 07:26 PM
honestly how hard would it not to be paranoid if someone was sitting there saying everything they could to put you on edge. And really if sylar is the person in his mind and not just figments of matts own pysche then sylars IA could help him push all the right buttons on matt.
bwm27
Sep 21 2009, 08:16 PM
I don't think will be seeing that surfer looking dude again because Matt made him go away. I wonder if Matt told Janice about Daphne?
Leek
Sep 21 2009, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (bwm27 @ Sep 22 2009, 12:16 AM)

I don't think will be seeing that surfer looking dude again because Matt made him go away. I wonder if Matt told Janice about Daphne?
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't. Which will make me angry.
Begemot Geroi
Sep 22 2009, 12:13 PM
Eh, I'm kind of torn on this decision. On one hand, I think Sylar might have just been using the guy to provoke Matt. On the other hand, people don't change.
Synch
Sep 22 2009, 12:20 PM
Well...they do. I'm living proof of that.
But I don't think she has.
jenn3539
Sep 22 2009, 12:36 PM
I thought it was weird how he referred to her as a single mom in front of Matt. It's like he didn't understand who Matt was or something.
Phoebegirl319
Sep 22 2009, 05:02 PM
Ha ha, I had an OMG! moment when I realized who was playing the water guy.
ChicagoCubz
Sep 22 2009, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (Phoebegirl319 @ Sep 22 2009, 08:02 PM)

Ha ha, I had an OMG! moment when I realized who was playing the water guy.

Thanks for sharing.
KromtheDwarf
Sep 22 2009, 11:21 PM
who was playing the water guy?
not actor name but why is it relevant?
Trujin
Sep 22 2009, 11:53 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if this whole "single mom" thing is explained by the fact that Janice used this lie, to get that idiot working around they house for her.
Shizniddle Snap
Sep 22 2009, 11:59 PM
QUOTE (jenn3539 @ Sep 22 2009, 04:36 PM)

I thought it was weird how he referred to her as a single mom in front of Matt. It's like he didn't understand who Matt was or something.
Yeah! When he said that I was like "What the hell is that supposed to mean." I mean Matt was right there. If some guy said that to me I would have done more than make him change his route.
Also who is the water guy?
CurtisHinson
Sep 23 2009, 02:03 AM
QUOTE (Phoebegirl319 @ Sep 22 2009, 08:02 PM)

Ha ha, I had an OMG! moment when I realized who was playing the water guy.

Did I miss something?
dalbrin
Sep 23 2009, 06:30 AM
He was nuts to get back with her in the first place.
She cheats on him, gets pregnant, tells him its the other guys kid when it's his, then moves off and has his child and commences to raising it without him ever knowing.
I mean sure, yay, lookit the cute baby and all, but it's called joint custody. Yeesh.
People may change, sometimes, very occasionally, but I know I couldn't change myself enough to trust someone again who'd pulled that crap.
Imthehero
Sep 23 2009, 07:22 AM
Janice is a cheater, she lies, and she had a "hot" younger guy in her house regularly. No way did they not do the horizontal plumber shuffle. I would have wiped the guys mind entirely and left him a zombie, but thats just me.
dalbrin
Sep 23 2009, 07:33 AM
It takes two to tango, but in that situation it'd only be Janice breaking a vow. If it were me, I'd wipe HER mind, and let the water guy off with a mild case of tourettes or something.
bruno6969
Sep 23 2009, 08:06 AM
Janice is a definite MILF
ChicagoCubz
Sep 23 2009, 08:08 AM
QUOTE (bruno6969 @ Sep 23 2009, 11:06 AM)

Janice is a definite MILF
lol x2 She lost a ton of weight.
And is it just me or did Claire lose weight too? She looked a lot more fit.
mrsmohinder
Sep 23 2009, 08:11 AM
I jumped to that conclusion, too, given her track record, but she knows Matt can read minds so...
Leek
Sep 23 2009, 09:27 AM
Unless that chick is a big fan of the TV version of Children of The Corn, I have no idea what the OMG was about over the plumber..
dwhite16
Sep 23 2009, 10:57 AM
He played Adult Wyatt on Charmed. Thats how I recognized him.
CurtisHinson
Sep 23 2009, 12:11 PM
Adult Wyatt on Charmed = OMG moment??
Synch
Sep 23 2009, 01:27 PM
QUOTE (dwhite16 @ Sep 23 2009, 01:57 PM)

He played Adult Wyatt on Charmed. Thats how I recognized him.
Holy crap! How did I
not recognize him? I loved that show.
Hordak Alpha
Sep 23 2009, 01:49 PM
QUOTE (Synch @ Sep 21 2009, 09:34 PM)

I'm thinking there was definitely another affair going on.
Oh...puns welcome, by the way. lol
Which "plumbing" do you think he was checking?

I don't think it was the kitchen sink. : P
Phoebegirl319
Sep 23 2009, 06:09 PM
Sorry! I had to get off the computer last night and I didn't come on until now.
The plumbing guy is Wes Ramsey. This is an OMG moment for me because before I watched Heroes I was a HUGE Charmed fan (and still am). And yes, like others have said, he played adult Wyatt on the show.
Sorry I left you guys hanging!
kojirodensetsu
Sep 26 2009, 11:52 AM
No. It was just a plot device to get Matt to use his powers again.
TessaBlues
Sep 26 2009, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (Phoebegirl319 @ Sep 23 2009, 10:09 PM)

Sorry! I had to get off the computer last night and I didn't come on until now.
The plumbing guy is Wes Ramsey. This is an OMG moment for me because before I watched Heroes I was a HUGE Charmed fan (and still am). And yes, like others have said, he played adult Wyatt on the show.
Sorry I left you guys hanging!
I knew he looked familier but I couldn't place where I knew him from... WYATT!!!!
Linara
Sep 27 2009, 09:44 PM
Do I think Janice was getting her depths plumbed? No. I agree that they both were far too relaxed for that around Matt.
Do I think Matt has no reason to be so easily riled by it, hell no. It's like Janice is trying to rub his face in the fact that she and that guy might have slept together. And considering that they're trying to get a seriously bruised marriage back up and running, it was beyond stupid behavior on her part. She made her husband the outsider in that little byplay, and that's rude. If she didn't let the plumber/water guy know that Matt was her husband...again, really stupid and disrespectful.
I can't blame the water guy, if he's truly clueless. Janice, however, is proving herself to be a horrible wife, not just once but overall.
Raekon
Sep 27 2009, 10:09 PM
QUOTE (Linara @ Sep 28 2009, 07:44 AM)

Do I think Janice was getting her depths plumbed? No. I agree that they both were far too relaxed for that around Matt.
Do I think Matt has no reason to be so easily riled by it, hell no. It's like Janice is trying to rub his face in the fact that she and that guy might have slept together. And considering that they're trying to get a seriously bruised marriage back up and running, it was beyond stupid behavior on her part. She made her husband the outsider in that little byplay, and that's rude. If she didn't let the plumber/water guy know that Matt was her husband...again, really stupid and disrespectful.
I can't blame the water guy, if he's truly clueless. Janice, however, is proving herself to be a horrible wife, not just once but overall.
You probably missed the part she says honey to Matt in front of the water guy?
Also the fact that she kisses matt in front of the other guy?
There was definately nothing going on between janice and the water guy at all.
They were just friendly to each other since he were fixing things in her house for years.
Nothing wrong having friends or with being nice to people.
In my opinion he overreacted and that without a valid reason.
Synch
Sep 28 2009, 07:34 AM
He overreacted without a valid reason? Really?
Even assuming she wasn't cheating on him, a huge assumption to be perfectly honest about it, there was real reason for him to react the way he did:
1: She has cheated in the past.
2: She was seeing this "handyman" in the house.Alone. With no other man present.
3: She did nothing to reassure Matt that nothing was going on.
4: When she saw how it looked, she did noting to stop it.
5: In front of her, and with no correction from her, this guy called her a single mom.
Yeah. No reason whatsoever for Matt to think she might be cheating again.
Volts
Sep 28 2009, 09:50 AM
I agree with Synch. My thought is that Janice wasn't getting her own plumbing checked, but was definitely trying to push Matt's buttons to see how he would react. And I think Matt made the right call to use his ability to get out of that situation.
On a related note, I think Sylar is right, that Matt's ability is part of him so he is going to need to use it--however, I also think Matt is right in that he needs to respect people's privacy.
Raekon
Sep 29 2009, 03:10 AM
QUOTE (Synch @ Sep 28 2009, 05:34 PM)

He overreacted without a valid reason? Really?
Even assuming she wasn't cheating on him, a huge assumption to be perfectly honest about it, there was real reason for him to react the way he did:
1: She has cheated in the past.
2: She was seeing this "handyman" in the house.Alone. With no other man present.
3: She did nothing to reassure Matt that nothing was going on.
4: When she saw how it looked, she did noting to stop it.
5: In front of her, and with no correction from her, this guy called her a single mom.
Yeah. No reason whatsoever for Matt to think she might be cheating again.
1) If she would like to cheat on him or something like that would had been going on the reaction would had be totally different than it was.
Additionaly there wouldn't had been ANY reason to go and make up with him again cause from what you can see it's not like she needed him financially or otherwise(no matter if a kid is there or not).
2) It was more than obvious that they had a simple friendship there going on since they knew well for so long.
3) Why would she? Do you think that people thinking 24/7 if their partner is gonna be jealous on just about everything?
4) How did it looked? She introduced Matt to the guy telling him that he were always been there when she called the service (or daily bringing water? I'll have to rewatch I guess) and she answered matt on his question on what that was.
5)The water guy were calling her single mom because she was one the whole time he knew her.
I'm sure that after she already had called matt honey, he would know she wasn't single anymore.
Nothing too hard to understand.
As about the main reason he was jealous in your point 1, I must additionaly say that if you are not ready to put some trust and forget the past then there is no reason to go back into a relationship with someone that did something like that before cause if he will be jealous on every single person that comes across her from now on, it will be unfair towards her (because he wouldn't ever give her a chance and will always be suspicious) and to him (living in fear that it will happen again and behaving like that).
To be honest, if someone would cheat on me than it would be a split without a turning back no matter the reason.
Most of all because I know that trust issues would always be there and that would be unfair for both sides for the reasons I already wrote above.
Synch
Sep 29 2009, 01:13 PM
lmao
You've never been in a relationship where the other party cheated on you, right?
You can forgive and be willing to move on but you don't forget, and you sure as hell don't trust just because you want to. Trust, once lost, has to be earned back.
I'll reiterate my points, and explain them a bit further to take into account what you said.
1: She has cheated previously. Who's reaction would be different? Hers? Why? She cheated on him in S1 and had no different of a reaction.
2: It was "more than obvious" that a man, in the house with her, completely alone, with nobody else there was...just a friend? Not to me. Not to Matt. Not to many (possibly most) other viewers.
3: People in her situation actually do try to reassure their spouses/mates/partners when attempting to recover a relationship. It's part of that "earning back trust" I was talking about earlier. The noticeable fact that she couldn't even be bothered to do it is strongly indicative of a real problem.
4: The point is that it looked like she was having an affair with the guy. It sounded like she was having an affair with the guy. See, what you do when you're in a rocky situation like trying to recover a relationship after an affair is make certain not to be alone in that kind of situation. There were a hundred different ways she could have avoided the impression of infidelity. She could've waited for Matt to get home before calling the guy over. She could've had one of her friends over for coffee or whatever while the guy was over. She could've asked him to stop coming over when she was alone. She did none of that.
5: It wasn't an "OMG, I forgot she remarried" moment on his part. The way he said it, and his reaction immediately after he said it, tells you that she never told him she was with Matt now.
Was she cheating on Matt? Possibly not, but it definitely looked and sounded like she was.
Raekon
Sep 29 2009, 10:34 PM
Guess what? I got cheated before and that's why I said, once the damage is done, there is no reason for me to go back! Period.
I forgive everything else in a relationship but cheating is for me a point of no return.
As I already wrote before and as you obviously either ignored or skipped that part, it is unfair to act like this to yourself and to your partner cause if you decide to go back then you'll have to trust again no matter how hard it is and give the other a chance to gain your trust back aswell.
What matt does is just misstrust the whole time and that won't save the relationship, nor will it fix it.
He will hunt or push away everyone that comes near her or was near her when he wasn't out of jealousy, she will get tired of his behaviour, issues will come up through the whole thing and at the end both will see that they only wasted their time with each other.
The way you wrote it and your way of thinking shows that you would also suspect anyone and anything the whole time and you know what?
You would never be able to fully trust again. That's why I say that cheating to me is something that can't be fixed anymore.
If someone crosses that line in a relationship then it's over and you obviously think the same but don't wanna admit it fully so... you just give it another try and maybe another and another.
By that though you make your partner suffer the same way you suffer the whole time and that's neither good for you nor for your partner. :/
Got what I meant now?
Synch
Sep 30 2009, 05:50 AM
I didn't ignore that actually. It wasn't relevant to the specifics of what you said that I was addressing though.
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