Leek
Sep 28 2009, 05:09 PM
So, Lydia that tattoo lady has a daughter, who she feels is in trouble.
Who could it be? Someone we met? Who is the father? Does the girl have a power? How old could she be?
SO MANY QUESTIONS
Also it is interesting to note The Family is not allowed to contact anyone on the outside. Furthering the cult like nature.
rayne
Sep 28 2009, 05:12 PM
clares roommate
Phoebegirl319
Sep 28 2009, 05:13 PM
I was surprised too! I was worried that they already showed her or something and I was too distracted when doing my how

to notice.
Lydia must have had her sometime when she was really young too (teenager?) because she doesn't look that old.
Leek
Sep 28 2009, 05:19 PM
Well from last weeks GN we know that when she was a teenager she joined up with The Family. So either she had the kid then, or sometime during her stay there.
Though I can't see the brothers letting her give away a baby...
paigequinto
Sep 28 2009, 05:25 PM
QUOTE (rayne @ Sep 28 2009, 09:12 PM)

clares roommate
I second this
Jade95
Sep 28 2009, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (paigequinto @ Sep 28 2009, 06:25 PM)

I second this
That's what I thought
shoot2scre
Sep 28 2009, 05:43 PM
Emma.
The tattoo looked like her.
bwm27
Sep 28 2009, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (rayne @ Sep 28 2009, 06:12 PM)

clares roommate
I also believe that it's Gretchen and I think that was the image on Lydia's arm before she made the call. Well, see next week.
Zeek
Sep 28 2009, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (shoot2scre @ Sep 28 2009, 08:43 PM)

Emma.
The tattoo looked like her.
Emma's too old. In the iStory/webisode about Lydia, she states that she had her daughter before she joined the carnival.Can someone get a good screen capture of the tattoo? Maybe that could help.
ChicagoCubz
Sep 28 2009, 06:52 PM
Wait...was this in the preview for next ep or this episode? I must of missed her saying her daughter was in danger.
delusions_of_grandeur
Sep 28 2009, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (ChicagoCubz @ Sep 28 2009, 10:52 PM)

Wait...was this in the preview for next ep or this episode? I must of missed her saying her daughter was in danger.
It was in the episode that aired..not the preview, so it should be ok.
ChicagoCubz
Sep 28 2009, 07:01 PM
Where in the episode does she mention a daughter? I'm still not seeing it.
delusions_of_grandeur
Sep 28 2009, 07:11 PM
It was in the scene where Edgar gives Lydia something that was wrapped up. She unwraps it and there was a Sprint Phone (love the product placement!

) Edgar said to Lydia that they weren't supposed to have phones. Lydia replied to Edgar that she had a daughter that was in trouble.
Does that help?
ChicagoCubz
Sep 28 2009, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (delusions_of_grandeur @ Sep 28 2009, 10:11 PM)

It was in the scene where Edgar gives Lydia something that was wrapped up. She unwraps it and there was a Sprint Phone (love the product placement!

) Edgar said to Lydia that they weren't supposed to have phones. Lydia replied to Edgar that she had a daughter that was in trouble.
Does that help?
Not really, I was looking for more of a how far in.
I just watched the scene before that iStory though.
Zeek
Sep 28 2009, 08:04 PM
If you saw the scene in the iStory, then you saw the whole scene being talked about here. What they aired was technically a commercial for the iStory.
Though you have to admit, the placement of the commercial was rather seamless.
Requiem191
Sep 28 2009, 08:05 PM
It's Claire! Claire is her daughter! Oh wait, shoot, they already solved that mystery.

lol
AlterEgo
Sep 28 2009, 08:13 PM
I think its Wretched Gretchen
That's my two cents
Raekon
Sep 29 2009, 02:37 AM
I think it's not a coincidence that both actresses have similarities and very long hair aswell.

I also were suspecting a connection between Lydia and Gretchen aswell.
ravn0s
Sep 29 2009, 03:51 AM
how far into the episode was this because i dont remember seeing it?
KayCeeHeroes
Sep 29 2009, 03:58 AM
my top dollar is on Gretchan!!!!!!
srtacr
Sep 29 2009, 04:36 AM
she doesnt appear to be that old so i dont think its gretchen. i think her daughter is going to be much younger, like molly's age.
Begemot Geroi
Sep 29 2009, 05:33 AM
QUOTE (rayne @ Sep 28 2009, 09:12 PM)

clares roommate
I will bet fake internet money on this.
remedios
Sep 29 2009, 06:04 AM
QUOTE (ravn0s @ Sep 29 2009, 07:51 AM)

how far into the episode was this because i dont remember seeing it?
Me neither... I'll have to re-watch it. I don't remember anything about the scene described here. Maybe I was too tired when I watched it!
dalbrin
Sep 29 2009, 06:33 AM
I believe the scene was actually just a commercial, to advertise a series of Heroes shorts on Sprint phones...so some people, depending on where and how they were watching the show, might have missed out. It wasn't part of the actual episode.
Gamistar
Sep 29 2009, 08:34 AM
I guess it could be gretchen... but... I don't know... feels a little too perfect. I think it's going to be a character we've not seen yet.
Raekon
Sep 29 2009, 09:43 PM
QUOTE (srtacr @ Sep 29 2009, 02:36 PM)

she doesnt appear to be that old so i dont think its gretchen. i think her daughter is going to be much younger, like molly's age.
She is definately at least mid 30 so it wouldn't be too farfetched if she got a child when she was very young.
Sheindie
Sep 29 2009, 10:57 PM
QUOTE (srtacr @ Sep 29 2009, 08:36 AM)

she doesnt appear to be that old so i dont think its gretchen. i think her daughter is going to be much younger, like molly's age.
..if Lydia is about 34 and had the baby at 16 (which she gave to her sister?to raise) she'd be a college freshman now - so - either Annie or Gretchen I'd think.
srtacr
Sep 30 2009, 05:30 AM
in the last GN it showed lydia without a kid.. and that was 14 years ago. so there's no way her kid could be any older than 13 or 14 if she didn't have a kid as of 14 years ago. so, like i said, her daughter has to be more around molly's age.
Raekon
Sep 30 2009, 05:36 AM
QUOTE (srtacr @ Sep 30 2009, 03:30 PM)

in the last GN it showed lydia without a kid.. and that was 14 years ago. so there's no way her kid could be any older than 13 or 14 if she didn't have a kid as of 14 years ago. so, like i said, her daughter has to be more around molly's age.
If gretchen is her daughter and she is definately 17 or 18 then its normal that she didn't had a kid with her 13-14 years ago. Most of all if she had to give it away or put it in hiding after she gave it birth.
I think that they will definately give us some answers on it soon so no matter what we all say right now its only speculation anyway.

I just think it would be cool if gretchen turns out ot be her daughter and also in danger cause through this we would know that actually gretchen is not a "bad girl" or that even if that she got forced to do things she didn't actually wanted to. Redemption is on call!

Would fit the theme of the season.
srtacr
Sep 30 2009, 05:45 AM
QUOTE (Raekon @ Sep 30 2009, 09:36 AM)

If gretchen is her daughter and she is definately 17 or 18 then its normal that she didn't had a kid with her 13-14 years ago. Most of all if she had to give it away or put it in hiding after she gave it birth.
im sorry, im not trying to be rude but i dont understand what you're saying there. what im saying is 14 years ago lydia did not have a kid. so she must have had the kid within the last 14 years. that means the oldest her daughter could be is 13 or 14, and thats at the absolute oldest!! so that means it wouldnt be gretchen cause gretchen is 17 or 18. so unless the GN was wrong, its impossible for gretchen to be her daughter.
mranstey
Sep 30 2009, 06:53 AM
QUOTE (srtacr @ Sep 30 2009, 09:45 AM)

im sorry, im not trying to be rude but i dont understand what you're saying there. what im saying is 14 years ago lydia did not have a kid. so she must have had the kid within the last 14 years. that means the oldest her daughter could be is 13 or 14, and thats at the absolute oldest! so that means it wouldnt be gretchen cause gretchen is 17 or 18. so unless the GN was wrong, its impossible for gretchen to be her daughter.
The GN doesn't say she didn't have a kid before that. She could have had and given the baby away before we meet her in that story. She'd be awfully young, but that's not impossible. The kid's age probably ranges from 18 to about 2.
srtacr
Sep 30 2009, 07:12 AM
QUOTE (mranstey @ Sep 30 2009, 10:53 AM)

The GN doesn't say she didn't have a kid before that. She could have had and given the baby away before we meet her in that story. She'd be awfully young, but that's not impossible. The kid's age probably ranges from 18 to about 2.
imo, it does. on the first page of the comic is says lydia gets a "prophetic message". then the fortune teller says that whatever she saw was a "want" or "desire". generally the terms prophetic, want and desire are used for things u dont have. while its never stated that she doesnt already have a kid i think its pretty clear based on the context clues that what she saw was a vision of the future, not of the past.
like i said, i doubt her daughter is any older than 13 but its even more likely the her daughter is even younger.
Sheindie
Oct 5 2009, 02:34 PM
..if you check out today's webisode, you'll know that Lydia had a child when she was a teenager.
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