4x03 ONCE UPON A TIME IN TEXAS

HIRO GETS A SECOND CHANCE TO SAVE THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE – JAYMA MAYS RETURNS AS CHARLIE – When Hiro (Masi Oka) travels three years into the past, he has a second chance to save Charlie (guest star Jayma Mays) from the hands of Sylar (Zachary Quinto). However, Samuel’s (Robert Knepper) presence serves to complicate Hiro’s mission even further. Elsewhere, H.R.G.’s (Jack Coleman) past with his Primatech partner (guest star Elizabeth Rohm) is revealed. James Kyson Lee, Hayden Panettiere and Sendhil Ramamurthy also star. Danielle Savre, Sally Champlin and Dawn Olivieri also guest star

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Hysterical Blindness as Episode 4x04

1) Claire/Gretchen Storyline will involve them trying out for a sorority
2) Angela seems to know more than she is telling Peter about what happened to Nathan
3) Peter and Emma's storyline will continue and his role as a true "hero" continues.
4) Peter will have a "surprise visitor" by the end of the episode
5) Of course Sylar returns and is interrogated by Ernie Hudson who is a detective.

SPOILER

SPOILER

Matt in the er or morgue
http://www.twitvid.com/324A3

Maybe sylar is getting a new body? Maybe matt tries too hard to remove him?

Facial reconstruction?

4x03 was the episode "Ink". The episode for 11-02-09, which this link says its for, should be episode 8. I've fixed the title for you.

As much as I like Sylar and as much as I like Zach Quinto, I do not want Matt to have facial reconstruction to look like Sylar, because he is going insane. That would mean we would in a way have 3 Sylar's and no Nathan or Matt. I like Nathan and Matt...I know they want to play up on Zach's success on Star Trek and I am sure he could play any role they gave him but there is no need for him to take over Grunny's role too!

Well, yeah. So does HRG and so does Matt.

And yeah the facial reconstruction just sounds terrible. I have a bad feeling about Sylar's storyline now that he's no longer 'Nathan'.

Geez how many partners has HRG had? If he's not careful he's gonna be the Jessica Fletcher of The Company

I hope Peter's surprise is Claude

I'm really looking forward to the Texas episode. It sounds like it will be really awesome. A lot of people think so as well. I hope they don't make it into a ret-con of "Homecoming". Also, I hope that Hiro gets some closure from Charlie and meets Claire in this time period as he should've in the first season and that they have a chance in the present

You want Hiro (26 I think) to go back and start a relationship with a 16 year old?....

Yeah, but not like right there. I mean he goes back meets Claire and they build something up like how every relationship starts and once he returns to the present they're both in an intimate relationship. If they get intimate at that time that's cool too because it could lead to more back in the present for these two. I just want to see them have a chance.

Except, as we all know if we saw spoilers (and you're here, so you did), Claire is getting the hots for girls now! lol (ok, we don't know if the Claitchen will last or not, but still, that's the most likely for now!).

I think Charlie is the best for Hiro! Always been, always be, even if she's 6 feet under! That's sad, really, but I never saw a couple so sweet than those two! Even Claitchen can't beat it. That's why I'm looking forward to Charlie's reapperance, whatever happens with it! Heck, he could save her from Sylar, go 10000 years in the future to get a cure for cancer and come back to give it to her (and to himself too, of course! lol), I don't care, those two were just meant to be together!

Clairo (Claire/Hiro, I have to find a better name! lol), I just don't see it, sorry. Not just about the age issue, they just never had much scenes together. The longest time they spent together, I think, was when they both traveled to the past, transferring the Catalyst from one to the other. Sure, I'd do like that they have more scenes together, that could be fun, really! But not a shipping!

But hey, it could be worst: Some people continue to believe in Claire dating her uncle Peter! I saw it on Heroes-related Youtube videos!

Hmm, so this Lauren Gilmore character is another Primatech agent...yeah...

At least it looks like Mohinder Suresh is in it.

I think his surprise visitor is Hiro actually. Especially if you look at the promo pics for the episode after "Hysterical Blindness".



That doesn't bode well X_X I've been really enjoying it with out him.

Does anyone know what happened the official description for EP 7? Did I miss that one or is it has not been posted yet?

We can all hope. Claude could show up and give Peter a Fonzie "AYEEEE!" to congratulate him for actually growing beyond his Heroes peers and using his abilities (limited as they are) for doing what Claude had originally attempted to train him for.




I am honestly INTRIGUED by the idea of Hiro going back to season one and making an honest attempt to save Charlie from a pointless execution by Sylar. It wouldn't exactly muddle up Sylar's history much since he loses Charlie's power anyways to the Shanti virus. If Hiro could successfully save Charlie, I'd be interested to see what changes would be made to Hiro's personal life. Of course, the chances of Hiro successfully saving the girl this time probably aren't in the ballpark since the actress is only guest starring for one episode. Still, I'd actually like to see some pay-off this time instead of using the excuse that "Time travel cannot be used to save someone if they originally died in the time line." Hiro COULD have saved his father from one of the lamest deaths Heroes has ever shown.


I hope he actually does save Charlie and we just don't see her past this episode since she carries on her life in Texas without Hiro or something. Of course, Hiro is also going to have to tackle the problem of keeping her alive what with her brain clot supernatural cancer thingy that was killing her in the first place. I hope Hiro's mission is the main plot of this episode and gets the most screen time. Here is honestly hoping!!

Good point. I'm hopeful he won't be written again like he's Too Stupid To Live.

The synopsis for the episode before this, Strange Attractors, has not been released yet. Looks like a couple of episode titles are being shuffled around in proper order.



True, it wouldn't mess up the timeline but based on the outcome of Hiro saving Tadashi in this week's episode, I think Hiro is going to learn to accept death for good after interacting with Charlie, since she's terminal and he failed to save her before.

I don't think it would be facial reconstruction... now that I think about it, it would still be Matt's physical body which differs from that of Sylar's. Also if Sylar is so powerful, couldn't he either shape shift or convince Matt that he is him. Maybe Matt is so plagued by all that is going on, that he has an accident or something... but it wouldn't make sense for it to be Zach's face, since he doesn't have Greg's body...

This is another great possibility for the outcome. Then, Hiro can start to work on a possible relationship with the person he's supposed to be with, Claire. I know I said this above, but I can't help it. I really want to see them have a chance.

Well, if she is STILL going to die at least I'd like to see her spared from Sylar. The way Hiro couldn't save her from him the first time honestly ****** me off. If Hiro saved her from that way of death, at least I could have some proper closure to that chapter of the story, finally.



Hiro and Claire both really need to do some growing up before I could find a relationship between them of any interest.

hiro visit peter to get help with his disease.

Well even if I would love to see charlie actually survive, her survival would bring up two problems.

- Sylars storyline and path would change cause he used her power in the GN to learn how to operate the truck that helped him to escape from the agents (otherwise they would had captured him and no one knows if he would had made it to claire/jackie or anywhere else anymore)

- Her death believe it or not would had come through the brain clot anyway and would had been worse than the fast death she had through the sculping.

Other than that I think that the surprise visitor will probably be mohinder.

HRGs partner will probably be one with powers that got killed (maybe by sylar? do they maybe introduce through her the character with the freezing power and it was her? I don't know).

Hiro + Claire I can see them adventuring together and it would fit well.
However, I see them definately as friends but not as couple at all.

Can we PLEASE get finally rid of sylar now? We had enough!

They are twisting and turn every single bit of the series to make everything fit around him SO HARD, that it doesn't make sense anymore, nor is it likeable. -.-

To me it seems that at the end all of the heroes will by a copy of sylar:

- nathan is already sylar
- matt get a new face and sylars essense then scalps someone with like marduks power
- the copies going around scalping, peter, angela, claire, tracy, HRG(just for fun not for power), mohinder and everyone else in the show and then tadaaaa! The show is over but we managed to pay one person for the whole show only while everyone else are out of the show.

I just wanna say, Hiro and Claire? No. Just no.

Well, guys I appreciate your answers; but I really believe that these two can really pull it off as a couple. I mean they are friends right now, but I think that they can discover that there's something else there between them because they both have great chemistry. I saw it in "A Clear and Present Danger" from the way that Claire responded to Hiro when she flipped up his mask on the plane. I really would like to see them have a chance.

True, but he's shown to be adaptable. He's got Telekinesis.



I read Mira is appearing, too. Maybe they'll address the biotech company she works for is just an international branch of Pinehearst.



In various interviews, the staff confirmed James Walker had the cryokinesis power. But they just stomp all over their word and come up with a new one shot character with powers to kill off.



Agreed, he could use an all expenses paid one way trip to the Sun by Hiro.

Does this poster's obsession with Hiro/Claire creep anyone else out?

Rohm discusses her character, a love interest for HRG, here.

lol, I find it weird, but I'm not ''creep out''. We all have our favorites shipping, right? This one is just kinda... special!

Didn't realize this until now and the poster on the link, but wouldn't that mean Gilmore has a power (One of Us, One of Them)? If yes, I pray it is a power not seen on the show yet.

I wondered about that, too. If so, the C.I.A would be a good Post-Company fit.

Can anyone tell me how its possible that Hiro travels three years into the past to save Charlie when in the shows timeline he met her in october 2006 and its only september 2007 at the latest.

They stopped caring about attention to detail? They fired the guy who keeps track of this sort of thing because it's a bad economy? Jumped the shark? The timeline was messed up when Samuel manipulated Hiro into saving Kimiko at the Carnival?

Yeah, I have my favourite shippings and the one I'm very interested in seeing is the one I've mentioned, but I also would like to see how Cletchen will go as well. I'm also interested in the Troah relationship as well. I listed all my favourite ships in the ship section. Like Eva said Cub, we all have our favourite ships that we would like to see. I'm sorry if you see this as a problem. I didn't mean to offend anyone.




The TV Guide people obviously made an error when they wrote the synopsis and were not thinking of the Heroes chronology; or they would've said a year and a half in the past intead of 3 years (real-time).

New photos for this episode at the link below!


http://www.heroes-france.com/news_1256157980.htm

Who said he traveled to the time he first met her? Maybe he traveled to a time before they had initially met, and Hiro will have to introduce himself to Charlie all over again. Afterall, Hiro still doesn't have complete control over his powers. Three years might give him enough time to find a healer for her (and his) tumor, and come up with a plan to stop Sylar from killing her.

The promo photos for this episode (they can be found in the post above yours) show Hiro back in the Diner at the same time as Sylar..unless Sylar was stalking Charlie before he had powers, I'd say they are going back to the time we were introduced to Charlie in S1, right before Sylar killed her. I think they goofed on the synopsis as it was three years ago real time, and they just didn't pay attention to the time line of the show (which I think is still in 07?)

Yes, the timeline mishap is driving a few of us bananas. It's September 2007 in Heroes land, get it straight! It's only been a year in general. Little less than a year from when Charlie was killed. They shouldn't be embarrassed by double-checking their work on Heroes Wiki.

Another nitpick I have until the show airs is this Lauren Gilmore. I thought the Haitian was HRG's designated partner or was I just under that impression the whole time and the Haitian and Eden McCain were just part of HRG's Odessa clique?

I am a little confused on this one too...they made it seem like the Haitian was HRG's Special Buddy, but I guess looking back at S1 maybe he was just part of a clique..we only saw him teaming with the Haitian and Eden, and after Eden bit the bullet he was just with the Haitian.

Maybe he didn't want to commit to a single Special partner anymore after this woman we're going to meet and had a rotation, lol.

HRG: Alright Eden, it's your week to tag along while I kick ******!

He did admit to Danko they are just tools to use so perhaps he was thinking strategically and surrounded himself with specials he would want more loyal to him; Mental Manipulation, Power Nullification, and Mind Control? Yeah, good choices. I'd guess this Gilmore has a more offensive-oriented power but if its a power we've seen already like Pyrokinesis, heads will roll.

After the "Villains" flashback, I'm skeptical on how well they will write them because they tend to shoehorn in new point of views or characters from season one. "1961" was great because it took place before the series but when they start messing with continuity of a past season, I get skeptical on its success until I see the episode.

Same here. I am holding my breath...so far this season has been ok. Much better than Vol. 3, but it'll irritate the hell out of me if they start screwing up their own continuity. That episode from 'Villains' is the only episode of this show that I absolutely hate, lol.

Agreed on all fronts, we're on the same wavelength here.

Don't get me started with "Villains," that's a whole can of worms.

I saw the photos, but I still have my doubts. . . especially since present-day Hiro seems to not be wearing his hospital gown anymore. It suggests some time has passed since he arrived, and that his encounter with Sylar will be later in the future. Couldn't they just fast forward from "three years later" to the year 2007 and the day Charlie is killed sometime during the middle of the episode?

There's also this episode, I don't exactly remember which one but it was a flashback episode, that's for sure, where he teamed up with Elle, right? You know, the one where they wanted to ''see Sylar kill someone''?

He also teamed with candice, claude, Meredith and the fire guy from the GNs I don't remember the name off.

So I guess the specials that were teamed with the non powered were selected dependant to the threat they were facing of the special they wanted to catch. At least it seemed that way.

Gathered my thoughts a little more and this is the conclusion I came to.

We know that Claude was definitely assigned to HRG as his partner. Everyone else is debate-able. He was trained by Ivan Spektor who was partnered with Maarten, the fire guy, at the time. Then HRG was partnered with Claude. The this Lauren Gilmore looks like Claude's immediate replacement? Then after Gilmore, most likely the Haitian.

It also appears that HRG eventually took on a secondary role as a trainer, as revealed by Felicia Brooks in the evsdropr arc. Then they way he treated Elle in "Villains" and his backstory with Eden McCain in "Six Months Ago" also implies he was assigned to train them, not necessarily be their partner.

With Candice, she was assigned to be his partner by Thompson Sr. when the Haitian went fake-rogue with Claire. In Volume 3, HRG was sort of free-lancing but took Gordon as a partner.

So by my count, 5 partners and 3 students.

Sorry to break the discussion, but there is a promo, so..

http://www.heroes-france.com/news_1256612266.htm

This is the website I've found!

My view... ''This place is a mine field, one mistake cancels hystory''. I guess it will be hard for Hiro to apply the ''Time-Bottle Exception'' that Samuel told Hiro about in Orientation/Jump, Push, Fall. But the question is: Will Hiro cancel history?

Other view: Jayma Mays/Charlie is as cute as always! And Hiro's speech when he talks about her (''Charlie was my heart, my world. When she died, I lost a part of myself''), it's pretty moving!

I'm looking forward to this! And to what will be the consequences of this!

The episode looks amazing.

It almost looked like in the promo that Hiro is holding Charlie so Sylar can slice her. NOT ANOTHER SYLAR-CENTRIC episode!! It is interesting that Samuel will be present in the past with Hiro adding another dimension to the plot. However, I hope this time Hiro saves Charlie instead of some contrived plot where he cannot save her because she was supposed to die. Bull crap. I am looking forward to this episode for some definite closure.

Maybe hiro's bargains with sylar and is going to tell sylar that the girl with the power is actually jackie, thus not changing the past but making it predistined that jackie is killed by Sylar.
so.. jackie was the one to die in season 1 because hiro told sylar that jackie was the girl with the ability in season 4.. in other words hiro was "fated" to go back in time to tell sylar to kill jackie not claire because it already happened...(if you don't understand this read harry potter 3 again. it might help keke)

Interesting theory, even though I won't read that book.

I'm just hoping that 1 - They don't screw with continuity and 2 - Just tell us what powers he stole from Chicago David and the Barstow woman. Hearing about a season one revisit jogged that gripe loose from my gripe storage facility.

promo made it look like hiro makes a deal with sylar to cut out the tumour in charlies brain.

One way things could resolve is if Hiro makes the above deal and Charlie finds out about it, she would want nothing to do with him any longer. That way he could "save Charlie" and lose her at the same time.

I thought Charlie had a blood clot?
Not a tumor.