There are a few Heroes that could of been saved or killed given the knowledge of various Heroes powers. Some other things didn't add up either.

#1 Instead of letting Nathan Die from Sylar cutting his throat. Use Claire's Blood to bring him back. Just like they did when Peter blew up and Nathan got burned. Also how Noah was brought back from being shot by Suresh.

#2 If the comic books/paintings showed the future then how come the city didn't get destroyed in season #1. It seemed he got everything right except the ending.

#3 What ever happened to Caitlin that Peter took to the future where the virus was released.

#4 What happened to Molly she was staying with Matt and Suresh.

#5 Why did Hiro and Ando goto India to stop the wedding?

1) Wouldn't have happened. People hated it, and the writers definitely didn't want ratings to drop lower than they were, so they weren't going to use something people hated.

2) Just because the future is painted/drawn, doesn't mean it can't be changed if they work hard enough. And besides, the explosion did still go off, just mid-air instead.

3) She's lost in a future that will never happen, beating the dead horse that is this question.

4) According to off-show information, she was staying in India with Mohinder's family, and was recently (pre-season) in some graphic novels with Micah and the "Rebel" group.

5) Because the drawing said to.

1) Well thats fine but seems silly though. Once you start a precedence of using a person's blood to bring people back from the dead you should maintain that option especially when Noah who was brought back by Claire's blood was standing there with Angela. I would of been why don't we just do what you did for me when I died lol. As far as I'm concerned if I'm a super evil company thats been around for decades and I had knew I had an immortal person with super blood I'd have a few gallons stored away incase someone died. I really think this is where the show falls short. People don't think about how to logically use powers around them to maintain their intrests as a group. I get mad when they don't think of these options to solve the problems around them. Having Matt upload Nathan into Sylar never would of seemed logical and would just be denial of the truth and of course lead to what we are seeing. Sylar's re-emergence as a possible threat. If Angela would of asked me to do that I would of said Um.. are you nuts?! I think I'll go get some Charcoal and Lighterfluid to burn Sylar's Body lol. Everyone even the characters would agree with me only Angela thinks this was a good idea. I'm pretty sure you could of actually used Sylar's Blood to bring Nathan back technically. Immortality is a game changer when you wield a tool like that can be shared with others you change everything.

For instance if I'm Peter and I got shot with a bullet I'd be like damn I gotta find Claire and touch her real fast. Thats what I would think maybe I'm selfish lol.

I agree about the blood. It was a bad idea but they should have come up with an explanation as to why it's not used other than the writers deciding it was a bad idea. All they had to do is say the blood won't work twice or the blood type must be a match or the effects of the blood are temporary.

Oh God...not the blood question again...

Okay, let's make this simple. Using only the information we have on-screen.

Noah's death & revival:
Who shot him? Mohinder.
Who else was there? Bob.
What had Bob just finished doing? Getting Claire's blood.
What does that mean? Claire's blood was right there, in the van.

Nathan's death:
Who killed him? Sylar.
Who else was present? Nobody. For several minutes.
Where was Claire's blood? In Claire.
Where was Claire? Running around with Peter.


In other words, they didn't have time to use Claire's blood in that scene.

Also, I agree they should never have brought up the blood to begin with, and I do agree that they should bring it back for a bit and explain why it can't work more than once, etc etc, but I do know that brining it back in any way will open up a very large can of worms. Better to just ignore the plot from here on out because it was dumb to begin with.

Technically he wasn't given the Blood Transfusion of Claire's Blood until they got back at the company. Also they could of used Sylar's Blood to heal Nathan. No one stated the how long a person has until Calire's Blood is ineffective.

For all we know they can use Claire's blood a month later or longer if the person is in a freezer. I'm just saying they should figure out a way to explain why they aren't going to use Claire's blood anymore. If Claire at one time had the catalyst maybe that is the only way it could be used on others, otherwise, without the catalyst it works only on herself. No biggie. There are alot of things on this show that will be confusing when watched for the first time on DVD or on re-runs. People will always wonder about the blood and Caitlin and Pandora's box and a few other things because the storylines were abandoned. I'm loving this year and have no complaints whatsoever. I think they are building for some great episodes during sweeps.

I never thought about the catalyst's affect on her powers. Time travel seems to confuse the hell out of you when it come to understanding the story lines. Cause and effect. If she never had the catalyst then her powers wouldn't of healed her father. Oh no my brain just crashed thinking about it lol. I guess I'll just have to just enjoy it and stop nitpicking it to death lol

I was just throwing the catalyst thing out there. Apparently nobody had the catalyst (in this timeline) from the day Hiro's mom died until Arthur brought it back. I'm enjoying this season. It is a good story and it isn't confusing on any level. You just have to forget about what happened before. It's not necessary to enjoy this season. A new viewer could start this year and get involved without knowing what happened in the first past seasons.

#3 What ever happened to Caitlin that Peter took to the future where the virus was released.

I think this is a huge Plot Hole that they just hope that people will forget about. In the third season Peter was so bombarded with stuff that he didn't have time to worry about her. Now that he has some down time he just doesn't care about her any more? There are only two options for her fate and neither is really that good for what Peter has been doing ( which is nothing). Either she is lost in time, or she is back home and safe because that future never existed. If she is safe, why hasn't she contacted Peter, or he contacted her. Why aren't they together. If they want to say that she is lost why isn't he trying to find her. Hiro is there now, grab his ability go back through time do whatever you need to to get her back. Release the virus maybe? Or at least mention her. They haven't talked about her at all. Are they going to try and pull the whole Back to the Future bit where the world will change around her back to good that time just hasn't come yet? I mean that was the entire point of the second season and now they just left it dangling. Its not like it was some no name character that stumbled in and out. She was the whole motivation to Peter for the entire second season and now what. He forgot why he was so gun ho about stopping the virus releasing?

I think the writers have written themselves into a corner and don't have what it takes to try and get themselves out. They know whatever they do is going to be cheesey and bad so they just hope that everyone forgets. But with Season's on DVD and everyone able to go back, its not that easy to forget anymore.

What I've said a million times is that a few things will be very confusing in the future when a new viewer who doesn't know about the writer's strike watches the episodes from the beginning of DVD or the Sci-Fi Channel.

On Caitlin...Has a year passed yet? Maybe Peter could get an emergency call and it will be about Caitlin who was struck by a car when materialized out of nowhere. The streets were empty before because of the virus, now there will be cars. I know it's a different future but the only other alternatives are that she's lost in time or the Back to the Future technique. In the BTTF scenario she is on a boat being deported to Ireland as she was a year in the future. After the timeline changed, the boat vanished and she drowned in the ocean.

They've already stated that someone who copies Regen doesn't get the extra bonus of the magic blood. (That was in a couple BTE leading up to S3.)

And...all we know is that he got the last couple drips of Claire's blood while at the Company. Given that it takes several hours to go through a pack of blood, it's ridiculous to assume it wasn't started while in the van.

I have watched the series from day one. I know about the writer strike and I remember how disappointing it was, but that does not give excuses for leaving huge plot holes. I grant you that though its been over a year and a half for us, there might not have been that much time passing for them (doubtful, but lets not debate that). He still has not even seemed worried about her. He doesn't have anything in his apartment about her, nothing to remember her, not even a mention of her name or trying to figure out what could have happened to her. It makes me feel like the writers are just saying "Well we had a strike and instead of doing the right thing and leaving it a huge hanger until the strike is over, well just cut it all short and not answer a lot of questions we've posed at the beginning of the season. Hey who will notice, really?"

If you loved a person I mean really loved them and they got lost somewhere. Would you just go about your daily life being an EMT or would you be trying to find a way to find her figure out what happened to her, ask for help? Maybe its just me but I'd be more concerned with the person I love.

I hope you don't think I was disagreeing with you. I was meaning that for a new viewer it will be way more confusing because they won't know about the writer's strike causing storylines to be abandoned. It's confusing to us and we've seen every episode. Most people have moved on and are enjoying this season. I am one of those. But, yes, people noticed that in one episode he's doing everything he can to find find her and in the next episode she's never mentioned again. If I were to be watching episodes in order on TV for the first time in reruns I would probably think the network skipped a few episodes.

When I said "Has a year passed yet?" I was meaning that Peter and Caitlin time jumped one year into the future. It's about time she showed up downtown somewhere. She won't because it's a different timeline but they could at least address it. Too many episodes have passed so they won't do a thing except put a commentary on the dvd.

Ok. Here are the ground rules.

Step 1 - Find two situations in the show where time travel should have worked the same, but didn't. For example:

- Hiro travels to the past, to stop a guy from jumping off a roof. He does this 40+ times. He never sees himself on the roof.
- Hiro travels to the past so that African Issac won't bump him on the head. He sees himself getting bumped on the head.


Step 2 - We'll probably never get to it, so I won't even bother explaining it here. I would like everyone to chill out and just let people list what they think are inconsistencies for a bunch of days before chiming in to 'solve' the problem.

What about how Samuel used his dying friend's remaining power to send him back in Time to find Hiro and trap Charlie, only to trick Hiro into Time traveling 8 weeks ago to get Mohinder's film?

Hiro always sees his past/future self is he travels to the past/future. When he returns to his present he is always the only Hiro. With the Japanese guy, he kept coming back to the present. With African Isaac, he was consciously going to his own past, if only a few minutes.

If each time he had returned the guy had already jumped then I would agree with you but he keeps returning to the moment before the phone call which was before he time jumped. He is repeatedly jumping into the past and returning to a point 10 minutes before he left. It seems like each time he went to the past to keep the guy from xeroxing his rear there would be another one of himself there or and when he returned there would be a version of himself coming back from trying something different.

Thats what i'm saying - since only one Hiro can exist in the "present" he overlays himself as he comes back. Right now he is the only Hiro and he does NOT remember, for instance, growing up with Ando and Kimiko together. All of those experiences are gone. He overlayed that version of Hiro upon his return - along with the 50 attempts at saving the Japanese guy.

That seems hardly fair for the person being overwritten. The Hiro that grew up with Ando and whatshername getting married probably was the best man and had many great memories that only he had and for a timetraveling version of himself to come overwrite him is inconsiderate. It's the same as if her were killed and replaced with a clone.

Your theory basically has a totally new Hiro come in and assume the identity of a Hiro he wiped from existence. The wiped Hiro lived his whole life and had his own loves and cherished memories and they are all erased. When he talks to friends and goes to his high school reunion they will all think he's a pod person who took over Hiro or that he's got Alzheimer's. They should handle it like the movie "Frequency" where, once a change is made, the new memories suddenly appear in his head or he merges with his previous self. Your theory may explain how time travel works on the show but it's dumb for them to do it that way.

It might be "dumb" but really... lets explore that a little bit.

Poor Hiro and his memories he'll never have...

Except that if it wasn't for the (primary Hiro without those memories) doing what he did, and forcing those changes... those things wouldn't have happened, that Hiro would have never existed, and he still wouldn't have those memories. Those memories shouldn't exist. That moment shouldn't have happened.

The primary traveler causes those things to happen, he has a right to retain his memory of what came originally. He needs and has a right to that knowledge and that dominant existance, wouldn't you say?

For instance, if F_Hiro in S1 had been completely successful, upon his return he would have gone to a fixed, good timeline. Wouldn't he have earned the right to stay there and keep his memories, and be happy, after all he saved the world?

I'm saying that that one shouldn't overwrite the other. They should become one and keep both of their memories. It was done in "Frequency" with a simple effect of a few memory flashbacks being shown as the timelines merged. The primary time traveler needs his memories so he will know what he changed to be able to correct it if the change was worse. The Hiro that is overwritten also needs his memories to continue his life in his own timeline.

What if Hiro were 90 years old and went back and did that change with the slushy? The new Hiro would have a wife, kids, grandkids, neices and nephews. That Hiro will be replaced by the time changing Hiro who never has met any of those people and never been a part of any of their lives. He would have had an entire sixty year marriage and he won't have spent one day with his wife.

Your argument is like a parent killing their child and saying "I brought them into the world and I can take them out of this world as well".

Yeah, maybe it would have worked out better for the character / been more "fair" with this "Frequency" style memory mutation, and (like the Butterfly effect movie) could have explained Hiro's tumors - but thats obviously not what the show has shown us.

We have seen Hiro looking odd to Ando and Kimiko, and not remembering those things in the new timeline. They look at him oddly, but life goes on. So don't argue with me over that part argue with the writers... this seems to be a pretty consistant way the time travel is working in Heroes, and i'd assume that is why Hiro knows he can't be messing with the timeline to any big extremes, for that exact reason... change things too much and lose a life time of memories, be completely out of place... a 90 year old Hiro with a whole life time of memories would hopefully be way too smart to ever go make a drastic change like that. The first F_Hiro took years of research and plotting to figure out exactly what to change and where to go, and he still failed, to an extent, and never got to enjoy the fruits of his work. Our Hiro has so far played his cards right, and saved Charlie, and helped Ando - he might not remember a few things but he knows that its all because of him, and he is happy, that is enough.