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Typo21
Anyone else think that this episode was the transition episode for the big events to come? It seemed like with all the new developments this episode,that the main conflict of the story is going to rise pretty soon.
Requiem191
If this was only a transition episode, then I am expecting a lot more awesome stuff from the "bang" episode, as you refer to it, lol. Good metaphor.

This was a great episode that balanced everything just right for me. I don't consider it a transition episode, but I can indeed see where you'd get that idea.
gamepete64
I think that what's to come is going to be sparked by Jeremy's death.
pjw2000
I'm not going to get my hopes up too much. As much as I am fan, I still know that every episode isn't brilliant. Heroes works a lot better for me when my expectations are realistic.

That said, things really did move a lot this week. Samuel isn't really someone I feared until that last scene (even with that sinkhole a few weeks back). Wow.

brunoar
Yeah... This could definitely have been a transition episode. Personally I didn't like it too much, I think I was expecting more than what they showed...

Anyway, I'm still waiting for them to tell us clearly who are the heroes and who are the villains, and what is the main topic this season... Is it the carnival? I don't know...
BrainMan
QUOTE (gamepete64 @ Oct 26 2009, 08:33 PM) *
I think that what's to come is going to be sparked by Jeremy's death.

in the past episode 7 were usually game changers. Well in this episode, claire finally figured out who is messing with her life (invisi girl) Sylar finally took over matt so he can now go search for his body. You have Tracy who is affected by the boys death she is going to head to the carnival. Noah you know he feels worthless, and he im guessing is going to keep trying to right his wrongs. So yeah i deff agree that this episode changed the pace and finally set the rest of the season on a track to an end.

And brunoar i almost like not knowing what to expect, its nice. Instead of being constant action and twists and turns, it came back to the drama, and mystery. I mean even in season one we knew about the bomb but we also didnt know who was good or bad, i mean we had an idea but not exactly.
SaturnCity
QUOTE (gamepete64 @ Oct 26 2009, 08:33 PM) *
I think that what's to come is going to be sparked by Jeremy's death.


I absolutely love the idea of the entire rest of the season stemming from this single instance. Like, all of the crazy antics that will inevitably pass could all be traced back to the death of the 17-year-old kid from Cainan, Georgia. You win the interwebz, gamepete64. thumbsup.gif

I think this episode is more of a "turning point" instead of a "transition". When I think of a transition, I think of a subtle shift, whereas a turning point is one big sweeping motion leading to a new path. I believe/hope that Strange Attractors and Once Upon A Time In Texas will be somewhat of a double-episode-turning-point-combo thing.
PetrelliByNature
QUOTE (SaturnCity @ Oct 30 2009, 06:45 PM) *
I absolutely love the idea of the entire rest of the season stemming from this single instance. Like, all of the crazy antics that will inevitably pass could all be traced back to the death of the 17-year-old kid from Cainan, Georgia. You win the interwebz, gamepete64. thumbsup.gif

I think this episode is more of a "turning point" instead of a "transition". When I think of a transition, I think of a subtle shift, whereas a turning point is one big sweeping motion leading to a new path. I believe/hope that Strange Attractors and Once Upon A Time In Texas will be somewhat of a double-episode-turning-point-combo thing.


The way the show usually works is: build up until the middle of the season, around episode 7, which as was mentioned, time travel/outside the time flow glimpse for the next episode (5YG, Four Months Ago, Six Months Ago, Villains) and the rest of the story after the outside of storyline episode results from episode 7.

I'm looking for episode 9 to really set things on its ear.

~PbN.
SaturnCity
QUOTE (PetrelliByNature @ Oct 30 2009, 10:08 PM) *
The way the show usually works is: build up until the middle of the season, around episode 7, which as was mentioned, time travel/outside the time flow glimpse for the next episode (5YG, Four Months Ago, Six Months Ago, Villains) and the rest of the story after the outside of storyline episode results from episode 7.

I'm looking for episode 9 to really set things on its ear.

~PbN.


Ugh. I hope that they've done away with the "Here's what will happen in the future. Now stop it." device. It's getting old. We're smart. We can connect the dots that have been placed in the present to see that something going on in the here and now will eventually lead to disaster. Besides, it would be more dramatic if they didn't know if anything bad would actually happen (Take Julius Caesar, for example: Brutus and Co. murdered Caesar simply because they thought he might become a tyrant; there was no guarantee that he actually would, but they killed him anyway.); that way, we could see conflict between characters over whether or not what they're doing is right or if the villain is actually a villain.

Synch
The major difference, of course, is that Julius Caesar was a work of historical fiction. The bare bones aspects of it were completely accurate. There was no need to create a weird future where it actually happened- because everybody knew the elements. The only thing Will was doing was relaying it in a different style.

Knowing the future that is in the works is not a bad thing. The only change I would make is what the original plan for S2 was- to have the future actually happen. (Sort of, anyway.)
SaturnCity
QUOTE (Synch @ Oct 30 2009, 10:40 PM) *
The major difference, of course, is that Julius Caesar was a work of historical fiction. The bare bones aspects of it were completely accurate. There was no need to create a weird future where it actually happened- because everybody knew the elements. The only thing Will was doing was relaying it in a different style.

Knowing the future that is in the works is not a bad thing. The only change I would make is what the original plan for S2 was- to have the future actually happen. (Sort of, anyway.)


I was simply using JC as an example of a story where characters choose to do something based on what they think will happen. I just wanted to point out that such a thing as a plot without a clear-cut "This is the future!" moment can still be centered on the prevention of something (in JC's case, the tyrannical rule of Caesar). And isn't that more true-to-life? We make decisions every day, and we have no idea what will result from them. Sure, we have a general idea of what we think/hope will happen, but more often than not we're firing shots in the dark.

Just a nice little idea for conflict I thought would be cool to see on the show. tongue.gif

EDIT: The original plan was to have the Virus released at the end of Generations, but the Writers' Strike put an end to that (Which still really irks me, since the ideas they had for the rest of Season 2 would have made Generations much more enjoyable in retrospect IMO.).
Synch
We also don't have time travelers in real life. Not seeing the future kind of destroys the main point of having someone with that ability. lol
SaturnCity
QUOTE (Synch @ Oct 30 2009, 11:07 PM) *
We also don't have time travelers in real life. Not seeing the future kind of destroys the main point of having someone with that ability. lol


Too true. XD But don't you think they've milked that enough? They can't use that crutch forever.
... can they? >_>

Besides, they've always tried to put a more realistic spin on the comic book genre, and Season 4 is vastly more grounded than previous seasons; thus, the lack of a Bad Future would fit snugly into the vibe of Redemption.
Synch
I don't see a reason to stop seeing the future we're trying to prevent. Maybe not every volume, but I see no point in completely stopping it.

I do wish they'd fail once or twice though.
SaturnCity
QUOTE (Synch @ Oct 30 2009, 11:24 PM) *
I don't see a reason to stop seeing the future we're trying to prevent. Maybe not every volume, but I see no point in completely stopping it.

I do wish they'd fail once or twice though.


I must agree. If we do get a Volume 6, I think the writers should revisit the "Failed to stop Bad Future" idea that they had planned for S2. But Volume 5 just doesn't feel like it needs a BF.
MattGillan
I wish they would carry on the exploding earth thing until the final season.
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