http://nbc.epk.tv/view.aspx?request=episod...owEpisodeID=726

Oh, I am this close to giving up on this show.

What's wrong? I looked at these clips and I'm getting excited for next week. The episode is going to be awesome.

It makes me a little nervous too, but this season so far has been different, maybe they can dance around this better this time.



Biggest potential issue, one false step and it really screws the show. I have faith in it mainly because of samuels speech to hiro. And this season isn't like the previous.

The trouble with these flash-back/time travel episodes, is that all of these actors have clearly aged. They're all obviously older than they should be at that time. With Hiro it's understandable since he's actually supposed to be a future version, and in the original episode they hadn't actually showed us what Sylar looked like yet; But Charlie and HRG are supposed to be from that time, and they're both showing obvious signs of wear.

I understand that there's no way around this, but it still bugs me. I'd prefer that they didn't do flash-backs at all.

And I guess that the writers are showing us this Lauren chick because their planning on having her reenter Noah's life as a new love interest?

What's wrong is in my subjective opinion the show's been getting worse every season. Now it's so bad they're going back in time and messing up S1. And I didn't even like the "I can't save Charlie" thing the first time.

But what really irks me is Noah. This is what they want us to believe he was doing? I don't care if it turns out he's just manipulating Lauren to do something covert for him. It's just "Bleagh!" like everything else.

I've been holding out since S2 for them to have anything vaguely intelligent to say but there's nothing.

Man, I'm in a bad mood.

Interesting...
In some respects I like this season better than parts of season 1 (not the season as a whole..but) and much better then 2 or 3.

Well, like you said, we can't counter the age effects, and the awesomeness of flashbacks episodes usually make up to it! Yeah, I love flashback episodes as they usually fill up some details in the current events. Even if we knew them before, now we experience them first-hand. And anyway: Charlie's still cute, Noah's still... Noah! lol. No problem in the end!

And to Shader's "But what really irks me is Noah. This is what they want us to believe he was doing? I don't care if it turns out he's just manipulating Lauren to do something covert for him. It's just "Bleagh!" like everything else.": Isn't that exactly what he were doing? Chasing Sylar wherever he were and protecting Claire? So what if he had a girl we yet don't know about as a partner for that! Maybe I would have liked it better if it were Eden, but whatever, a new character is always nice to discover!

Personnally, I'm looking forward to this episode! Like I said, I love flashback and flashforward episodes in this show, and the Hiro+Charlie relationship has always been the most beautiful one in the whole show! Two reasons to watch this already! Samuel's coming and warning Hiro that "this is a [temporal] mine field" is also, not only badass from Samuel, but a point-out that the writers are conscious that this event is important and that the Time-Bottle Exception might or might not apply. We'll just have to wait and see if it will!

I agree. This season is different in a new way because they're introducing a whole new set of characters with powers. The only thing I hate about this season is Matt's storyline with Sylar. It's boring and unbelievable.

I'll reserve judgment after this episode airs, but it's not looking too good so far.

If this episode stays how it seems like it will, more like a fairy tale episode that moves things along a bit, then I'll be fine with it. This is a very big moment in Heroes and if they change it in any way and mess things up horribly and destroy canon, then we're going to have major problems...

I'm sure the fact that Lauren bears more than a passing resemblance to Tracy is no accident.

I'm actually sure that the writer's just have a bit of a fetish for blonde chicks and that any resemblance Lauren has to Tracy is merely coincidental. The idea of Noah and Tracy shipping together isn't bad, but they obviously aren't going that route with all of this. Lauren is merely a blonde chick who happens to possibly be a love interest for HRG in the future. Tracy has no bearing on that potential story.

Let's be best friends.

Season one was definitely tons better than any of the other seasons, and now they're going to screw that up, too. Plus, dumb show is dumb. I'm gonna pull a Sylar and try to hang myself retroactively.

8 minutes of clips can hardly be used to judge the remainder of a season. I will also reserve judgement til after I watch the episode. I think the writing is by far better than S2 and 3 and that makes me excited for the rest of the season. Let's just enjoy the ride while we can!

I don't get what everyone thinks is wrong with these clips. Good stuff if you ask me. Hiro looks to affect the past only enough to make what happened originally actually come to pass.. It has the possibility to be brilliant.. We will see.

Can Charlie really be saved? Somehow, I don't think so...

he can save her the same way he is going to save himself... bringing charlie to the future to see Peter. But when he gets there, the future wont be the same and he will have to bring charlie back to the past and let nature take its course...

See, that's a possibility! But there are hundreds others! Maybe he'll totally fail at saving her, for exemple. Or maybe her case is a Time-Bottle Exception, so that saving her, without interferring in any way with anything else, won't change the future so much except for her being alive (I actually believe so, seeing how Samuel seems o.k. to let Hiro saves her, but warning him that "this place is a mine field", and also considering the fact that Sylar didn't used Eidetic Memory that much after he got it, and in ways that he could have gone without it).

We can guess what will happen but we can't really know it until Monday!

I hate the Noah and Lauren thing! This totally hoses up his character. His arc in season 1 was about his company man/ family man life. In the end, his family was the most important thing to him. I'm gonna be so ****** if we find out he cheated.

No! I don't think he did this! He was tempted I bet, but in the end; he never went through. She probably did help at Union Wells that night besides Eden and we didn't see her because she was somewhere else in the school or because Noah turned her down she refused to help at the school; so he asked Eden to help instead.

I love EPKs!! Thanks!

We have seen glimmers of how this series can virtually be flawless with episodes such as Five Years Gone, Company Man, Tabula Rasa and any other episode that can be compared with that. Unfortunately, the bulk of the series HAS been full of blemishes. Tabula Rasa was great, while Strange Attractors was a near disaster. As for the Texas one, I too am waiting until I see the episode to reserve judgment. It indeed does have the potential to be great considering it deals with Hiro once again trying to change history to save one single person from a violent death. This time it almost sounds like he will indeed succeed. If he doesn't, then the episode WILL be a disaster since it will have been an hour all for nothing. We shall see come Monday.

Yes.



Yes.



What.

Well, it has been the first episode this season where I really had nothing negative to say. The plots and pacing of that episode kept me happy, which is a rarity. Hopefully, the time travel to Texas with Hiro saving Charlie (FINALLY) will keep me that way too.

The reason that I remain unconvinced that Charlie will truly be saved is because the actress is only signed on for a single episode -- Once Upon A Time In Texas -- and the writers tend to kill off more characters than ship them away safely like Claude and Maya.

So, then why exactly retread again with this story? If Hiro ends up failing AGAIN, the episode will really have been all for nothing.

critics really are worthless

I don't like you, and you don't like me... But frankly i agree with ya there.

But opinions are nice! I couldn't help but notice that Hordak's post was an opinion just like everyone else's. Huh. Interesting, right?

God I am getting tired of people like this...

I think the objective of Hiro's visit is to obtain some official closure from Charlie for his attempts to save her life. He may or may not save her, but the main objective is to for Hiro to get official closure before moving on.

so after watching those clips i/we are to believe that the season 1 sylar didnt pounce on charlie because hiro walked in the room? not to mention that when the ep originally aired sylar had her head off almost immediately after putting the can opener in the can, but now there is a sound that distracts her for a sec then hiro walks in....
i got a really bad feeling about this...

Why do you say the "I don't like you and you don't like me" bit? Considering I don't recall discussing anything here with you before, I cannot say I don't like you for I just met you.






Which is pretty much every comment I make on these forums. Many seem to get all riled up and angry at me if I say something negative about a Heroes episode. Unfortunately, I'm not one of those Heroes viewers who loves everything I watch. To be fair, I pretty much have negative comments for A LOT of shows that I like and watch. The writers of these shows can't and don't please everyone with everything they write. Why do you think there are just as many people who speak negative comments about Sylar as there are who have nothing but praise?

The fandom of Heroes has two sides and honestly all opinions from both sides are equally important. It is never a cause to "flame" or bash anyone just for expressing their opinions.






I'm just curious to find out how Hiro is able to manipulate Sylar to help him save Charlie's life merely with baiting him with knowledge of the future. Either Hiro is a complete genius or a complete moron. We'll see on Monday.

It's a Simpsons reference...



New trailer, NOW confirms that Hiro makes an agreement with Sylar to save her, in exchange for telling him everything he knows.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/11/heroes-an...uma-monday.html

I can't wait till tonight to see this either. I did not watch the trailer, but my guess will be that with Hiro doing this, he also made a counter-offer with Samuel and the two of them have something planned for Sylar. Will have to wait till tonight to see. I'm sure that Samuel is going to have a say in these events to come.

I can't believe how much naysaying there is over this series.  I for one still love it and it is following a very good storyline this season.  If you guys truly hated this series you would have stopped watching and stopped coming to this message board.  So please stop your frakkin batching.

Even with all of the good this series has to offer, there is still a lot of "BLAH!" when it comes to SOME of the character's stories. Tracy Strauss is tiresome already and Claire's college sorority adventures, having taken up A LOT of screen time already, is just boring. Sylar's consistent robbing of his powers/memories and then restoring him to power every season has gotten stale and constantly making Peter powerful then flawed and then powerful and flawed again has gotten predictable.


Even with all of that, I'm still watching the series with SOME enjoyment. Hiro, Ando, Peter's ascension to being a REAL hero, Samuel's quiet manipulations of other characters along with his "Carnival" of super powered minions gives me plenty of enjoyment to keep coming back every week.


With that said, I certainly hope this episode 'Once Upon a Time in Texas' turns out great. I like time travel stories and considering this episode has so much potential to be great, I'm truly intrigued as to what will happen. I just hope that THIS TIME the writers don't hand us another "You cannot change history to save one person, Hiro" shwarbage again. Giving this Charlie storyline a proper closure by ACTUALLY saving her would be great, even if she never appears again on the show. And since Hiro knows EVERYTHING that has happened in the past three years considering he read ALL of those 9th Wonders comics when he trying to get his memories back last season, with all of that knowledge he could theoretically manipulate events to play out in a similar way while leaving Charlie alive and intact. I'm just wondering if the writers will catch on to how Hiro could keep the core events of Heroes history intact. I already know how he can, but do they?

Samuel has been manipulating Hiro for some specific purpose getting him to change the timeline. I believe that he's somehow causing Hiro's sudden timeshifts or at least taking advantage of them to manipulate the timeline to his advantage. For what reason I don't know.

If you saw the episode, you know now.