Since watching this episode I have had a sudden urge to hate Hiro. I am now seriously wanting him to leave the show and to never come back or in other words . I am not sure why it is though, I loved the episode and Hiro was before this episode one of my favourite characters. If anyone else has the sudden urge and is suddenly hating Hiro after this episode, or is it just me?

No...it's just you.

hm, i'm actually on the opposite side of the coin here.

my love for hiro seriously waned for a while - and i was at a point where i just wanted him to go away. but, after this episode, he has stepped up and i am caring about him again.

No, just you.

I've not been that keen on him for a while tbh.

what did he do to make you feel this way? This is the first time we have really seen Hiro so concerned about something he loved/wanted so much. So maybe this other side of Hiro turned you off, i dunno?

Im not so sure about that. My theory is the whole thing with charlie. Back in season 1, I saw it as a man who loved a woman and all that, that he said at the start of the episode to that boy. But this episode seemed to be more like a another obsessive try to be a hero. Also i have been going off him for a while...but this episode took a huge leap in my eyes to my path for hating hiro..

Hiro's being a bit of a wuss tbh.

I would have told Samuel straight up that unless he gives up Charlie's location in the next five seconds I'd freeze time and when it unfroze one or two of the carnie members would be dead. If he called my bluff, I'd do it, too, and keep on doing it until he gave in. Especially if I was as in love with the girl as Hiro seems to be.

Then again, I suppose he's got to stay a HERO...but those carnies were acting pretty threatening when he first got there.

That is so what I would have done.

Actually, if you were Hiro you'd have done exactly what he did.

Why? Because what you describe is completely, even violently, contradictory to his actual character.

I know, Synch. I even implied as much at the end, saying he wouldn't be much of a hero if he did that. I know exactly why the writers couldn't have Hiro go all Sylar on this crowd of threatening people who had just kidnapped the love of his life. The one he'd worked so hard to save. It'd go against his character.

My point stands, however. His character is a bit of a wuss. They're all involved, he should make them all pay. But he's going to do things his way, I guess, which is to do exactly what they say despite having an overwhelming power that he apparently now has control over again.

Same here.

I adore season one Hiro, but he hasn't done much the past couple of volumes.

Now I'm caring about him and interested in where he goes for the rest of the season.

Actually, they are not all involved! Didn't you listen to Samuel about why he didn't ask Arthur to bring him back 2 months ago? It's a secret. Most likely, only him, Hiro and possibly Lydia knows about that.

Also, as pointed out before, that wouldn't be like him to go on a rampage like this! However, he might get revenge on Samuel once he saved Charlie. That, I'd see Hiro do so. Or maybe not... It could go both way I think!

I've disliked his character since 3x01, but he was definitely lame in last night's episode, too.

They did surround him in a bit of a threatening manner when he first arrived with Samuel. Now, WE know that most of the carnie folk probably don't know that Samuel is plotting things and that they were probably just concerned for Samuel. But Hiro wouldn't...

Also, the other carnies aren't completely innocent here, intimate knowledge or not. Samuel brought back someone they didn't know who immediately starts shouting for someone who's been taken from him by Samuel. And they all just...watched. Knowing how ruthless Samuel is I have a hard time blaming them, but still. They have to know everything ain't kosher.

And, again, I KNOW that it would be out of character for Hiro to do that. I know what Hiro's character is. I'm just further implying that said character has a strain of wussiness in it.

Nope. Hiro doing something besides comedy relief (though that was in the episode too) was kinda nice for once.

Though Hiro is one of my favorites, so...

Do you..get these urges..often?


*Takes out notebook and inquisitive stare*

I'm just glad he's ditched Ando (at least for now).

I think this puts Hiro on the path that he is supposed to be on. Think about future Hiro. He isn't fun and games and laughter. He's all business and his innocence is gone. Charlie is what takes him over the edge and his inability to save her. The fact is, Hiro and Charlie will never be together. They said it in the episode -- the Butterfly effect. Remember the movie? No matter what Ashton Kutcher's character did, he could not save his girl to be with her. They were destined to be apart. The same is with Hiro and Charlie. Sorry to say, but they are destined to be a part.

Maybe its the fact of a bit of cheesey writing. Hiro just didnt show the love. He kept saying "she is my true love" and "I lost a part of me". HE FORGOT HER OFF HIS LIST AND REMEMBERED AFTER A FEW DAYS. If she was his true love and if this took place 1 and a half year before or, as the show says, 3 years before then shorly hed remember her. I think it was cheesey writing for all these lines about loving her and stuff because in the end he forgot her just like peter forgot catlin e.c.t.

I don't Hiro... but I hate what he has become.

The Charlie plotline was awesome in S1. It was really touching and emotional, and gave Hiro an important lesson in the limitations of his power, and that even if you are master of time and space, time is still short.

I have always loved Hiro with his optimism and humour, and the way he has embraced his power - he has never "just wanted to be normal" but always wanted to use his godsend for good. I also loved the Takezo plotline, where he learns that time is a tenuous thread. And when he tries to save his father, but learns that he can't save everyone. And especially the plotline with his mother.

And then what? My-Name-Is-Earl and this monstrosity.

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but:

1) Why didn't he go back and save Charlie before?!

and

2) Why doesn't he just go back again to the Burnt Toast Diner to get to Charlie before Samuel abducts her?!


Arrggh!!

Hiro never tried to save his father. He literally stood there and watched it happen due to some conviction that monkeying with time was wrong. Which, unless I'm mistaken, means he's either breaking some huge important rule in saving Charlie, who apparently is worth it when his own family isn't...or he let his father die for nothing. Either way he doesn't exactly look good.

He tried to save his father, and his father wouldn't let him, if I remember correctly. Although I think this means that he could come talk to his dad every time he needed advice right before it happens, doesn't it? Hahaha

True, true, his father forbade him to get involved. Doesn't mean he copuldnt have done it anyway. Though that would have been pretty out of character.

Hiro respects his father, so he wouldn't go against his will!

As for Charlie, like you said, he did break the rule of ''not play gods with his power''. The thing is, Samuel teached him that he can change things, if he's careful and it's little things. That's why Hiro's more ok with changing the past this season.

Sudden urge? He's been the most annoying character in the show since season 2. In season 1 he was a little quirky, which was funny. He provided some comic relief. Now, he's nothing but a pathetic joke of a character. They keep making these ****** little subplots for him just to keep him around. Seriously, Dial-A-Hero? That was an embarrassment to watch. When this season started I thought, "oh, he has a tumour? Well at least they're finally letting him go". But oh no, we find out that he's going to be saved by a "life and death" power. The sooner they kill him, the sooner this show can ditch the time travelling ****** and get back to putting the show back on course. Ever since season 2 they've done nothing but destroy this show and the ratings have proved it. Let's just hope they can pull some sort of a decent ending out of this garbage.