Hello Everybody!

I realize that I am way behind on Heroes...but can anybody (preferably the Heroes Writers) answer any of my questions?

I finished watching the very first DVD of Season 3. I am baffled.

The role of Dr. Zimmerman! It makes absolutely NO Sense whatsoever!

Tracy, Niki, and Barbara was created by Dr. Zimmerman on the same day, at the same hospital after their biological parents were removed.

Can Dr. Zimmerman explain why Nicole Sanders visited Jessica’s grave in the First Season of Heroes?

Does Dr. Zimmerman know that Jessica was Niki’s twin sister?

Does Dr. Zimmerman know that Jessica’s childhood abuse was due to their abusive dad? You remember…when this guy shows up out of nowhere buying Micah a computer and got really mad when Micah pulled it apart...are you telling me that, that abusive guy was not Niki’s biological father? Since Dr. Zimmerman says that Niki’s biological parents was removed by Linderman Company’s curiosity.

And when is Peter going to bring Present Day Caitlin back from the Shanti Virus Chaotic Future --- now that the Shanti Virus Vile is destroyed in the palm of Peter’s hand?


At the end of Season 2, when Nathan got shot by Future Peter…WHO called Angela Petrelli at that same moment when Nathan got shot? The video camera inside the big, clandestine Shanti Virus vault had a red light that beeped fast while Matt, Nathan, & Peter wanted to let the world know about the truth. Did Future Peter call his mom to say that the job was done? Seriously, who was watching the surveillance camera to have called Angela so quickly? Did that person know that Future Peter would come back from the future to shoot his beloved brother in the chest and called Angela immediately?


I just finished watching the third Disc of Season 3.


Are you telling me that Molly Walker has the ability to find a person even if that person traveled back in time?

Does Molly Walker have her ability after Arthur Petrelli’s visit in India?

Is Molly Walker alive after Arthur Petrelli’s visit in India?


I just finished watching the sixth Disc of Season 3.

When did Angela Petrelli ever took care of Gabriel Gray as a young boy? According to Sue Landers Lie Detecting Ability that Sylar retrieved, Angela Petrelli never lied about her taking good care of Gabriel.

Did Angela Petrelli asked the Haitian to erase Gabriel Gray’s memory of his biological father killing his biological mother? Did Angela Petrelli asked the Haitian to erase all of his memories back in 1980? Because I remember the Haitian saying to Peter Petrelli that Angela took really good care of him as a young boy. When did Angela Petrelli meet Gabriel Gray’s biological parents?

The time when Nathan Petrelli’s face got burned…Adam Monroe’s blood was injected into his body system. Was Adam/Kensei's blood only good for that one time recovery?

Can Baby Matt Parkman and Claire Bennet’s blood cure Nathan Petrelli from death?

Can Claire Bennet’s blood cure Hiro Nakamura from the Mutated Virus without her having the Catalyst?

On the night that of James Martin’s (Sylar’s) body was being cremated, did Matt Parkman and Mohinder Suresh completely forgot about their adoption of Molly Walker entirely?

Can Baby Matt Parkman and/or Ando supercharge Peter Petrelli’s absorbing ability to keep all of his powers that he’s obtained before Arthur Petrelli took all of it?

In the very first Season of Heroes, it showed that Charles Deveaux had a Dreaming Ability. He dreamt that Peter Petrelli took him out flying around New York City the day before he died. In 1961, it showed that Charles Deveaux has Eden McCain’s/Parkman’s ability before Primatech recruited Maury Parkman. Did Charles Deveaux only have two abilities or did he have more or less?


1961 Dr. Chandra Suresh was studying for his Doctorate degree and having a job in Coyote Sands.

In November 2, 1977 is when Victoria Pratt was assigned to create the Shanti Virus.

When did Dr. Chandra Suresh marry? Exactly when was Shanti Suresh born? We understand that Shanti died when she was 5 years but what year did Shanti Suresh die? How and when did Primatech pick up Shanti’s DNA without Dr. Chandra Suresh knowing?

OR Is the Scenario this?

Dr. Chandra Suresh meets an entire camp full of people with special abilities in 1961. Dr. Chandra Suresh survives the shootout disaster and goes back Bombay, India to marry his wife. Learns that his firstborn daughter has a special ability. Shanti dies in 1976? Primatech personnel came to Shanti’s dead body and grabs some DNA makes her name infamous…as the Shanti Virus…all under Dr. Chandra Suresh’s nose. After his book, Primatech Personnel meets him for the first time in the episode named “Six Months Ago”.

Dr. Zimmerman, also, survived the shootout disaster at Coyote Sands back in 1961. Because he never set foot out of his bunk to see what all the loud commotion was about. Primatech recruits Dr. Zimmerman to inject a formula without the catalyst into thousands of babies to obtain abilities.

Is that what happens during the 16 years between 1961 and 1977 or am I way off course?

Which reminds me: when is Peter going to bring Present Day Caitlin back from the Shanti Virus Chaotic Future --- now that the Shanti Virus Vile is destroyed in the palm of Peter’s hand?

Can anybody help me before my head explodes?

Sincerely,

Inquisitive Kohai

I think that all of these questions are best answered as they're big plot holes that will never be filled.

I'm afraid that you might be right.

Well, it is your lucky day! I happen to be one of the few on-staff writers who takes the time to answer individual questions here at 9th Wonders, questions that could otherwise be answered by simple research or watching the show. So let's have at it! Also, don't forget to watch Heroes at its new time 8PM EST!




Niki and Jessica were not twins. Jessica was Niki's older (non biological, it can be inferred) sister. Jessica was killed by their abusive father when they were young. Niki was visiting the grave of her dead sister, whom she missed very much.

I have...no idea who this Caitlin is. Are you sure she ever existed on the show? As a writer for the show I totally have no idea who that is..

Actually you asked a lot of question so maybe one of the other on-staff writers will be kind enough to step by and answer some. Thank you for watching our show!

Just as a disclaimer for anyone without a sense of sarcasm, Leek isn't actually one of the writers.

What are you implying, Sir?


And anyone, it is sort of like telling a little kid that Santa IS real. Keep hope alive, right???

Tracy, Niki, and Barbara was created by Dr. Zimmerman on the same day, at the same hospital after their biological parents were removed.
Can Dr. Zimmerman explain why Nicole Sanders visited Jessica's grave in the First Season of Heroes?
Does Dr. Zimmerman know that Jessica was Niki's twin sister?
Does Dr. Zimmerman know that Jessica's childhood abuse was due to their abusive dad? You remember…when this guy shows up out of nowhere buying Micah a computer and got really mad when Micah pulled it apart...are you telling me that, that abusive guy was not Niki's biological father? Since Dr. Zimmerman says that Niki's biological parents was removed by Linderman Company's curiosity.
Ah. Questions about issues resolved within the show. I love these. lol

1: Niki visited Jessica's grave because the two of them were sisters. Not biological, but still sisters. (They were raised, until Jessica was beaten to death by their drunk father, as sisters.)
2: Jessica and Niki were not twins. Nothing in the show ever indicated they were. Jessica was older.
3: I doubt Zimmerman even knew Jessica was abused. Or particularly cared.
4: We aren't telling you anything. The show told us that Hal (the abusive alcoholic) wasn't Niki' biological father.

But I'm pretty sure these have already been answered.

And when is Peter going to bring Present Day Caitlin back from the Shanti Virus Chaotic Future --- now that the Shanti Virus Vile is destroyed in the palm of Peter's hand?
More than likely, the answer is never. That future doesn't exist. It is inaccessible. At best, Caitlin just got bounced out of it (since she was already time-lost) when it was overwritten, and was placed in the alternate future that took its place. At worst, she was destroyed when that future was.

At the end of Season 2, when Nathan got shot by Future Peter…WHO called Angela Petrelli at that same moment when Nathan got shot? The video camera inside the big, clandestine Shanti Virus vault had a red light that beeped fast while Matt, Nathan, & Peter wanted to let the world know about the truth. Did Future Peter call his mom to say that the job was done? Seriously, who was watching the surveillance camera to have called Angela so quickly? Did that person know that Future Peter would come back from the future to shoot his beloved brother in the chest and called Angela immediately?
1: We don't know who was on the other end of that phone call.
2: That red light was more than likely part of a silent alarm. We don't know who was on the other end watching.
3:I highly doubt, given her reaction to his very presence in her timeline, that F_Peter told her anything.
4: Kind of hard for anyone other than a precog to know that F_Peter was going to do anything of the sort.

Are you telling me that Molly Walker has the ability to find a person even if that person traveled back in time?
No. There is no reason to believe she can do this. (Assuming I'm reading your question correctly.)

Does Molly Walker have her ability after Arthur Petrelli's visit in India?
If you can access them, read the graphic novels. Specifically the ones that came out at the end of S3. Your question is answered there.
The answer is Yes.

Is Molly Walker alive after Arthur Petrelli's visit in India?
Read the previous answer.

When did Angela Petrelli ever took care of Gabriel Gray as a young boy? According to Sue Landers Lie Detecting Ability that Sylar retrieved, Angela Petrelli never lied about her taking good care of Gabriel.
Actually, Sylar never used that ability regarding that specific question. He didn't even have that ability when the issue was raised.
He did, however, use it to find out she was lying about him being her mother.

Did Angela Petrelli asked the Haitian to erase Gabriel Gray's memory of his biological father killing his biological mother? Did Angela Petrelli asked the Haitian to erase all of his memories back in 1980? Because I remember the Haitian saying to Peter Petrelli that Angela took really good care of him as a young boy. When did Angela Petrelli meet Gabriel Gray's biological parents?
The Haitian never said anything like that to Peter. I don't know what you misheard.
And I doubt the Haitian had anything to do with Sylar not remembering. I think he did that all on his own. It's called repressed memory, and is far from unheard of.

The time when Nathan Petrelli's face got burned…Adam Monroe's blood was injected into his body system. Was Adam/Kensei's blood only good for that one time recovery?
Unknown, but doubtful.

Can Baby Matt Parkman and Claire Bennet's blood cure Nathan Petrelli from death?
Again, unknown but doubtful.

Can Claire Bennet's blood cure Hiro Nakamura from the Mutated Virus without her having the Catalyst?
Hiro doesn't have the mutated virus. He has a tumor. And they've already answered that this season. She can't heal him.

On the night that of James Martin's (Sylar's) body was being cremated, did Matt Parkman and Mohinder Suresh completely forgot about their adoption of Molly Walker entirely?
No. Mohinder sent her to India earlier in the season.

Can Baby Matt Parkman and/or Ando supercharge Peter Petrelli's absorbing ability to keep all of his powers that he's obtained before Arthur Petrelli took all of it?
This one is an open debate (in part) among those of us on the forums.
The part that isn't open to debate is that he no longer has any access to those previously absorbed abilities. No matter what happens, they're gone and the only way to get them back is to absorb them from the people who have them.
The part that is open to debate is exactly what happened to him. I maintain, and believe the show supports me, that nothing will cause Peter to ever hold more than a single copied ability at a time. That's the ability he was given at the end of S3 and, imho, is all it's going to be.

In the very first Season of Heroes, it showed that Charles Deveaux had a Dreaming Ability. He dreamt that Peter Petrelli took him out flying around New York City the day before he died. In 1961, it showed that Charles Deveaux has Eden McCain's/Parkman's ability before Primatech recruited Maury Parkman. Did Charles Deveaux only have two abilities or did he have more or less?
Actually, it didn't show that he had a dreaming ability. It never specifically indicated he had an ability at all. Everything we saw in S1 regarding Charles could just as easily have been Peter using an ability.
He had 1 ability. Telepathy.
And Eden McCain had a far different ability than Matt. She had Persuasion, not Telepathy. (They're related, and a Telepath can use Persuasion, but someone with Persuasion is not a Telepath.)

1961 Dr. Chandra Suresh was studying for his Doctorate degree and having a job in Coyote Sands.
In November 2, 1977 is when Victoria Pratt was assigned to create the Shanti Virus.
When did Dr. Chandra Suresh marry? Exactly when was Shanti Suresh born? We understand that Shanti died when she was 5 years but what year did Shanti Suresh die? How and when did Primatech pick up Shanti's DNA without Dr. Chandra Suresh knowing?
1: Not sure when Chandra married. Probably not long after Coyote Sands though.
2: Shanti was born about 5 years before Mohinder. He was born too late to save her- which means she died before he was born. From the family photo we saw, she died only months, if not weeks or even days, before.
3: There are a hundred ways they could have gotten it without Chandra knowing (assuming he didn't know, obviously). The easiest is they simply had their own people in the hospital and obtained a blood sample.

Can anybody help me before my head explodes?
Darn. I've never seen someone's head explode before...

Howdy kohaisnow,

That's a lot of questions and it seems you have received a number of answers. However, this topic seems more suited for the General Discussion (forum) of Heroes than in the Feedback forum. Hence, I'm going to move this topic while leaving a link for now.

Welcome to the forums and I do hope you enjoy your time here!

wolfbro

For the record, Wolfbro here is merely a guest writer. And Synch just brings us our bagels in the morning.


The more you know.

Umm...is there supposed to be an actual post there?

Thank you, Synch, Leek, and Wolfbro for everything!

I work nights...so renting the Heroes DVDs from Blockbuster is a small joy for me to see all of the Deleted Scenes.

In the Deleted Scene of Disc 3 of Season 3...Molly was apprehended by Arthur Petrelli after he [Arthur] asked Mohinder about Molly [in another Deleted Scene].

In the next scene in that particular episode, Arthur Petrelli shows up on the Deveaux rooftop 16 years ago to take the Catalyst from 28 year old Hiro Nakamura and grabbed 17 year old Claire Bennet to send a message. That's why I asked that question.

The Haitian said that to Peter...when The Haitian locked Peter Petrelli up in the shipping container (filled up with iPods) that got sent to (Wandering Rock Pub) Cork, Ireland. I believe the Haitian said that to him in the episode titled "Four Months Ago".

Nevertheless, I am grateful to read all of these answers from you, Synch. Thank you! Thank you!

Thank you for everything!

Sincerely grateful,

Inquisitive Kohaisnow

A big thing to remember when it comes to this show and its deleted scenes is this: deleted scenes do not count towards the story. Because of their deletion, they are reduced to having the same amount of canonical impact as a crappy fanfic.

I think the red light was part of the camera, there was another one attached to the camera in Mohinder's lab which Elle spotted Sylar on I can see no reason for an alarm there Mohinder went in legitimately.

Yes? You might be right about that? Like the time when they deleted the boring scenes of how The Haitian originally apprehended Hiro Nakamura and Ando Masahashi at the movie theater in Germany Or the time when Present Day Peter Petrelli fought Future Daphne inside Gabriel & Noah Gray's (Former Bennet/Butler's) House in Costa Verde (I Am Become Death Episode). When they changed it...it was all for the better.

But Synch just told me that I should read the Graphic Novels about Arthur Petrelli's visit to India when he subdued Molly Walker's Guardians. The only reason I've asked the 'Molly' questions is because of those Deleted Scenes. If you recall, the next scene of Arthur Petrelli was him taking the Catalyst from Present Day Hiro Nakamura 16 years ago (after another Deleted Scene where Arthur Petrelli asked Dr. Mohinder Suresh about his adoption of Molly Walker).

And if Deleted Scenes does not count? Then how do you explain some of the Deleted Scenes that shows up in some of our "Previously" Scenes. For instance, the Deleted Scene of the Cheerleader asking Claire Bennet about the "make-believe Cheerleader Retreat Question" AND the Deleted Scene: where the Landlord tells Mohinder about Coyote Sands Operations in full detail...all in the "Previously" Scenes.

But..I guess you might be right...because the Deleted Scene of Noah Bennet taking care of the Rebel/Micah Sanders-Hawkins right after Tracy Strauss froze all of Emile Danko's men (Cold Snap Episode) was probably not as important because Micah was found in somebody's (Noah Bennet's?) OR some other apartment when Gabriel Gray saved him from Emile Danko's men...but perhaps I might be able to read that in the Graphic Novel as Synch has suggested? Because we all know how and why Micah came home with a black eye in Season 1...simply by reading the Graphic Novel of when Micah (first discovered his special ability and) used his powers to fend off the bullies in Las Vegas.

Switching subjects:

In Season 1, her tomb stone is engraved:

Jessica Sanders
Beloved Daughter and Sister
1976 - 1987

So it’s just a coincidence that Jessica’s last name is Sanders even though Jessica is not biologically related to Nicole whatsoever…despite the fact that www.imdb.com writes differently from what you guys have replied to me?

Is it because Nicole Sanders was created on August 26, 1974 (not 1976)? Is that why Jessica Sanders and Nicole Sanders is not blood-related to the other? If Jessica was not related Nicole...who is Jessica's sister?

How to explain this any clearer...

Okay so, Niki Tracy and Barbara were triplets, correct? And clearly they were separate at birth, as we know Tracy and Niki had absolutely no knowledge of the others existence.

Niki, a baby being removed for her bilogicial "family", was then adopted seemingly by another family. This family was not her biological family but her adoptive family (although she was none the wiser) and their surname was Sanders. The Sanders had another daughter (Whether that daughter was biologically theirs or not is irrelevant) and that daughters name was Jessica.

So the Saunder's family had two girls, Niki and Jessica. The girls were adoptive sisters, not biological sisters, but probably had no idea of that fact. They WERE sisters. Just not BLOOD sisters.

So she has one more "Get out of Death free" sister running around out there?

I believe the writers have said they have no plans to introduce Barbara, so I doubt it. And I hope not. As much as I like Ali Larter, if Tracy dies or gets written off then it should remain that way..the introduction of Tracy kinda watered down Niki's death for me.

No. I said to read the GN. I said nothing about Arthur's alleged trip to India.

Because it never happened.


Regarding the deleted scenes? He is.
Thus the reason they're called "deleted" scenes. It means they don't actually exist as far as the show is concerned. They're not canon. They're completely immaterial to the show. Not sure how many other ways there are to explain it.]



Jessica had no sisters as far as we know. Biological anyway.

And it's far from a coincidence that Jessica's last name was Sanders. After all, Hal's last name was Sanders.

You seem to be laboring under the concept that last names are permanent, and you're stuck with the one you're born with. More often than not, an adopted child (especially an adopted infant) is given the last name of the family that adopts them.

same here



To expound upon this concept that peoples names are mutable, my mother, when she was adopted at age 12, not only chose to change her last name to match the family name, but her first as well.

Yeah but let's be honest sometimes saying that isn't so easy.

The thing is, as you likely know Heroes records multiple episode at one but often the scenes are deleted just before the episode goes out which means it doesn't just vanish.

For example in Generations, Angela reminds Nathan he said that they "don't deserve to be saved" now this is a reference to a deleted scene from Four Months Later... referencing deleted causes problems and I prefer to consider at least the spirit of them canon unless they actually cause a continuity slip, because only then would it actually matter.

Whether or not you're considering the spirit of Deleted Scenes still there doesn't matter. Deleted Scenes have no bearing on the show in any way. They're just scenes that you can see and wonder about. Other than that, they're useless. Trying to base any questions on them just causes headaches.

Yeah. What ^^^^ said.

Deleted scenes are to fuel people's imaginations, if you will, to ask questions that make their head hurt. Deleted Scenes are not and will not ever be considered canon to the show. It's there so everyone can fly high into the skies and imagine what would've happened if the deleted scene had been in the episode. Trust me. I've had many of these "headaches" Requiem191 is mentioning.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you had said that earlier..then I would not have asked the second time around. (Someone should really change the information about her [her as in Niki Sanders NOT Ali Larter] in www.imdb.com)

Thank you for clearing that up for me, Leek. I appreciate it. Now I can keep my "head explosion" to a minimum until I can Rent All of Season 4 from Blockbuster next year. I work nights so I always miss the episodes and can't keep up with you guys.

I think you're missing the point of the comment which is that alot of the deleted scenes don't add much and, contrary to the above add little to the show and certainly don't add anything to the show and were likely cut purely for time, which means that they get referenced in the show another example is the scene cut from Run where Mohinder calls Matt and gets Janice, the scene adds little gets cut short but ends up with Janice later telling Matt, Mohinder called.

Of the examples you're referring to are things like "A Spark Ignites" which certainly will get you scratching your head because it plays like an alternate opening to Don't Look Back but it seems your supposed to take it as a dream because the ending of Genesis always involves Peter jumping of the roof of a tall building, taking this as real changes the plot spectacularly and I'll never allow the spirit of that one with what we've got it doesn't remotely fit.

However there's also those scene in the middle, which may have come to your attention, which is the Cryokinesis shot they pulled from One Giant Leap.
Whatever happens, Audrey definately reacts to Sylar handiwork when she gets off that lift, we don't get to see what she's reacting to but we have to assume it's there. Just to reinforce it she points her then points her gun at Sylar and tells him to "freeze".
Tasteless, maybe?
Either way everything in the scene points to the deleted scene. Except the light level which is a bit inconsistent cause I'm not sure they could flicker up that high.
A lot of this sequence was rather butchered which is a pity because it dilutes the marriage between it and Mohinder's 'What was my father involved with?' remark.

"Watered down" ha ha ha ROTFL!!

XD nice catch

LOL I didn't even catch that! Well, as they say, these things write themselves

"On the night that of James Martin’s (Sylar’s) body was being cremated."

After watching the entire series in the span of about 2 weeks...(thank you Netflix on Xbox), this is my one real "I don't get it" moment.

Nathan is dead. Slyar is not, he shape shifted into Nathan.

How is Sylar's body being cremated??

What did I miss or am not understanding? The above mentioning of a "James Martin" is also confusing because I don't recall this character.

The shapeshifter was named James Martin. He died and was stuck looking like Sylar. HRG became suspicious and stopped the cremation and opened the body bag and pulled th knife out of the back of the shapeshifter's head? Everyone had guns drawn because they thought it was Sylar and he would regenerate. When he didn't HRG knew Sylar was still alive. At the end of the finale, HRG cremated James Martin who still stuck as Sylar to help pull off the scam.

Ooohhhhhhhhh yeeeahhhhhhhhhhhh...

Danku.

it just my theory, Jessica, Nikki, and Tracey are not triplets or twins, since they are all different ages, possible if 1-2 yrs apart of each other, even 16-20 yrs later.

they are biological related, yes, but twins or triplets? no.
my theory are about "baby clone duplications?, there possible 4th "Ali Lanster", think of primal elemental force.

Jessica is earth, pure physical, and Nikki was air, and Tracy is water/ice, and 4th would be fire, somehow got Claire's biological mother who controls fire, but died at Primeatech was first and oldest of 4 sisters and other 3 girls are lot younger?

i do recalled that, Nathan Petrelli mentioned to Tracy, that she remind him of Claire's mother when they were younger.
maybe claire's mother was prime and 3 others were cloned?

lot of unsolved mysteries?

No. Just no.

Jessica is not one of the Triplets. Jessica was simply a girl who was Niki's sister, was abused by her father, got killed in the process, and Niki herself repressed the memories of her past and created an alter ego, a split personality, that acted like her sister that had come back for revenge.

Jessica is not involved with the Triplets in any way. She simply was an innocent girl caught in a bad situation who died. That's it.

Niki had super strength. That was her ability. She had super strength and split personalities. Tracy, her biological sister, has the ability to manipulate water, which means, as the show indicates, she can freeze objects and make her body like liquid.

The third Triplet, Barbara (her name has been revealed before, but they have not gone into her story yet), has not been talked about. She simply is there. It's possible that she is dead, though no one can be sure about these things.

Ok, just a really quick question, and I do not intend to threadjack, so please bear with me. I just got the GN on hardback for Heroes 1 and Heroes 2. My gf says they came out before the TV series, and I think they coincide (sp?) with the TV show. Can anyone clear that up for me?

We now return you to your normal thread ...

The graphic novel releases a 7 page chapter each week at 3 am Eastern online each Tuesday after a new episode airs on the Monday before. Usually, they also release new chapters during breaks. The one exception was this summer when it was 1-2 new chapters a month. The hardcover is collected and sold usually in November however, none were sold in 2009 and instead Volume 3 will be sold in September 2010 according to Amazon.

So you were write and she was wrong but the sake of not getting yourself in trouble, don't tell her she was wrong.

Awesome, thanks for that. I'll make sure I don't tell her!

Interesting to think she was dead. But wouldn't Dr Zimmerman's "Barbara...?" when Tracy appeared at his door have been rather like "BARBARA?!"

I don't really think she's dead

Like I said, it's possible that she is dead, we just can't be sure about these things. It's just as equally possible that she's alive.