Daedalus
Oct 2 2006, 07:08 PM
Well, for the time being, and in order to prevent myself from having an aneurysm, I'm going to go ahead and say that Hiro's storyline was the only one taking place in the future.
phisho
Oct 2 2006, 07:03 PM
How much of this episode took place on November 8th? Are we to believe that Mark doesn't find out about his powers until the deadline?
On that note, it seemed like no time had passed during Niki's storyline between the two episodes. Well, four hours, I suppose, but not five weeks.
We know that Isaac and Hiro's storyline's didn't take place on October 2nd, but did the Petrellis'? What about Claire's and Marks? Was Isaac the first victim of the brain theft, or was it the man in the house in L.A.? What do you guys think?
ShadowMaat
Oct 2 2006, 07:08 PM
My guess is that only Hiro's and Isaac's storyline was in November and everyone else was back in October. Everything else is sequential from the last ep.
I wonder if Nathan will still win the election once things REALLY start to come together...
phisho
Oct 2 2006, 07:11 PM
Yeah, that makes sense: Everything from Hiro's point of view was the future. Still, the episode wasn't very clear...
Zora
Oct 2 2006, 07:11 PM
Right, Shadow, considering that Nathan was still campaign-mode (Peter threatened to jump and ruin the polls) and right before the explosion, Hiro sees a newspaper citing Nathan as the landslide winner, I think only Hiro's story arc was in the future.

Could be wrong though! You never know with this show.
gfleming21
Oct 2 2006, 07:12 PM
i agree i think Hiro's storyline is just special because it jumps around time so much. I think though that he is still expierencing it all in the same time that the others are had he not been in th future.
But i have a question. When he finds out the date Hiro says it's Oct 2 which is iroic cause it is. But they tell him it's November 6th or something like that. Based on that does it mean that the whole explosion that Issac predicts and we see Hiro encounter is going to happen in the ep that airs that date. That would stink cause I saw that as more a seaon finale in May ep.
phisho
Oct 2 2006, 07:13 PM
QUOTE (ShadowMaat @ Oct 2 2006, 11:08 PM)

My guess is that only Hiro's and Isaac's storyline was in November and everyone else was back in October. Everything else is sequential from the last ep.
I wonder if Nathan will still win the election once things REALLY start to come together...
Yeah, I was just wondering that. I've seen someone expressing their hopes about the show following the "Butterfly Effect" theory, and the election would be the perfect way to showcase that.
Darkfire
Oct 2 2006, 07:14 PM
Hiro's powers could make things really interesting, because, until he learns how to fully control it, if he does say perhaps teleport around and meet one of the other characters, will it be in a past or future timeline? And when the characters join together in one of the timelines with Hiro there, that will cause some strange dilemmas.
Guest
Oct 2 2006, 07:31 PM
Dude there is an easy explanation for this...
First in the train: Take a close look to the clock it show that days have passed.
Second: Just a teory: That future that Hiro sees is just because He teleports in time space... so didnt do anything to prevent it. That is maybe why issac draw him(THE COMIC) in order to "tell him" about them. Now is hiro's mission to go NY and mastered his power because he is an essential part of what hppens. Well this is my teohry .
marndar
Oct 2 2006, 07:33 PM
Guys (and gals) I guarantee Claire's segment took place on October 2nd. At one point when they're in her house, her dad is looking at the newspaper account of the fire and it says October 2nd on it. I firmly believe Hiro's segment was the only one taking place in the future.
Which could be bad news for Isaac, if that's who is the dead guy in his apartment. Of course if they don't stop the nuke, it's all kind of meaningless anyway.
Viper
Oct 2 2006, 07:17 PM
For the whole time thing, I understand it just find. Everyone's story including Isaac's was in the present... Hiro's was the only one storyline that was being told in the future.
phisho
Oct 2 2006, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (gfleming21 @ Oct 2 2006, 11:12 PM)

i agree i think Hiro's storyline is just special because it jumps around time so much. I think though that he is still expierencing it all in the same time that the others are had he not been in th future.
But i have a question. When he finds out the date Hiro says it's Oct 2 which is iroic cause it is. But they tell him it's November 6th or something like that. Based on that does it mean that the whole explosion that Issac predicts and we see Hiro encounter is going to happen in the ep that airs that date. That would stink cause I saw that as more a seaon finale in May ep.
No, the explosion episode most likely will not air on November 8th. (The paper did say the 8th, right?) First of all, the 8th is a Wednesday. Secondly, the first episode aired on September 25th, right? Well, only a day passed between the first two episodes (save for Hiro and Isaac), so we know they don't follow real time.
ShadowMaat
Oct 2 2006, 07:19 PM
Here's a question: Is NYC gonna get leveled by a stray nuke from Jericho?
phisho
Oct 2 2006, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (ShadowMaat @ Oct 2 2006, 11:19 PM)

Here's a question: Is NYC gonna get leveled by a stray nuke from Jericho?

Haha, of course. Can you think of another explanation?
Is Jericho on NBC? I don't watch it, because of the reviews I've seen.
ShadowMaat
Oct 2 2006, 07:28 PM
I think it's on CBS and at this rate I'll be surprised if it lasts a full season, but I'm sticking with it for now.
At least Heroes adds twists to the perceived cliches. Jericho takes cliches and adds multiple exclaimation marks. And underlines them. *sigh*
Viper
Oct 2 2006, 07:35 PM
Thats right, the newspaper did say November 8th. I thought the same thing as you did gfleming, until I opened my cell phone up and looked ahead at the calender. Turned out November 8th is going to be on a Wed. so that idea was throw out the window.
EDIT: btw... Jericho is on CBS, I've been watching that show 'On Demand'. I've only been watching it because Ashely Scott is on it. I loved her in Bird of Prey.
MiTYH
Oct 2 2006, 08:17 PM
Claire's was definately on october 2, because it was right after the incident, same with Niki and Peter and Nathan.
Hiro was definatly the only one in the future... but is anyone a bit curious as to what caused the huge explosion? I mean... that was MASSIVE!
Broken Shakespeare
Oct 3 2006, 05:06 AM
QUOTE (MiTYH @ Oct 3 2006, 12:17 AM)

Claire's was definately on october 2, because it was right after the incident, same with Niki and Peter and Nathan.
Hiro was definatly the only one in the future... but is anyone a bit curious as to what caused the huge explosion? I mean... that was MASSIVE!
Perhaps it was Sylar the human bomb (among other powers) and he was upset that he had just lost the election to Nathan.
v3nd33ta
Oct 3 2006, 05:16 AM
Hiro was definitely the only one in the future, like it was said, the clock in the subway showed days/weeks flying by...I think that's why the clock was there, aside from letting us know his powers were working of course.
The thing that bummed me out was the comic...why couldn't we see more of it? I mean we know Issac can paint the future so why not give Hiro a glimpse of what was gonna happen next? I mean couldn't he have flipped the page and seen that he was about to walk in on a guy with a head and no brain?
I know if I found a comic depicting my life verbatim I would be reading the whole thing cover to cover before I found the guy that wrote it..but that's just me I guess.
Now for speculation what could cause a blast that Massive besides a missle? I think that is the real question. Is there a mastermind villian, someone that exists that we haven't met or have met and haven't seen their powers? What if the lady with the dying father has some crazy explosion power and when he dies she goes nuts, loses it and blows up the city? Just a funny thought..but really...what caused the explosion?
fuegote
Oct 3 2006, 05:41 AM
QUOTE (jamyp @ Oct 3 2006, 07:32 AM)

Well what about the cop and the crime scene? Was that in October or November? If the crime scene was in October then there will be no way to prevent that man's brain from being taken. I wonder how many more brains will be removed in the next few weeks.
It is safe to say only Hiro's took place in November. Every other story line was the present day.
jamyp
Oct 3 2006, 05:32 AM
Well what about the cop and the crime scene? Was that in October or November? If the crime scene was in October then there will be no way to prevent that man's brain from being taken. I wonder how many more brains will be removed in the next few weeks.
Greg Turner
Oct 3 2006, 05:58 AM
yeah, Hiro is the only one in the future. However, Niki's time lapses are very interesting--with the new car, bodies already in the desert, and a clean garage, she must never sleep!
Grimjack
Oct 3 2006, 06:19 AM
Thinking everyone's except Hiro's took place on the 2nd.
If it is Sylar, I wouldn't imagine him being capable of 2 murders in the time period that occured.
I'm going to have to assume Hiro is the deciding factor. Since he went forward in time, he wasn't there to change any of the events he saw. If he has gone back in time now then he can find the rest of the heroes and warn them. He just needs to figure out how to use his powers more effectively.
Master Xander
Oct 3 2006, 07:58 AM
I'm curious to see how Hiro's powers develop. Can he only travel through space if he travels forward in time?
jamyp
Oct 3 2006, 08:02 AM
I am hoping not. I think that since he is still new at this so his ability needs some tweaking. He was probably saying I want to be in NYC in his mind but did not specify that he wanted it to be the same day. Then we he ended up back on the subway he may have been thinking I want to go back or I wish this never happened.
Master Xander
Oct 3 2006, 08:38 AM
QUOTE (Starman_Matt_Morrison @ Oct 4 2006, 12:24 AM)

No, his teleporting to the women's bathroom showed he can teleport without time traveling.
Is this necessarily true though? He
may have jumped even a minute or two to get to the women's bathroom. Perhaps the time difference is just increased as the distance increases.
Thrift_shop_ninja
Oct 3 2006, 08:09 AM
I'm actually kinda surprised it's caused this much confusion. On another board, most of the people thought Hiro CAUSED the exsplosion with his scrunchy face, but then again most of them didnt see the first episode. I have a feeling this show is going to be like LOST whereas you really need to watch the series to understand what is going on.
Eric
Oct 3 2006, 08:16 AM
HELLO! Niki's storyline is in the future as well. Notice the wardrobe change? Notice the skulls in the desert? Notice how she doesn't open the trunk after the wardrobe change? I'm tellin' you, when she opens the trunk she'll find no bodies--she's already buried them in the desert. Hiro's time-traveling screwed up everything.
Thrift_shop_ninja
Oct 3 2006, 08:21 AM
No, Nikki's story happens FOUR HOURS after she conks out in the car. Hiro is the only one in the future. thats why her son calls and says "its been four hours". Its not a time leap, shes just been blacked out while Nikki B did her thing.
Starman_Matt_Morrison
Oct 3 2006, 08:24 AM
I think you're all worrying too much about the flow of time and how everything in the show in a week has to take place WITHIN that week.
Not all the parts of the story take place on October 2nd just because that's when the show airs. They don't even take place during the same week (Nikki's story, so far, seems to have barely taken place over a few days)
As for why November 8th is important? Day after Election Day in New York City, assuming elections are held on the first Tuesday following a Monday in Novemeber in the world of Heroes, same as in the Real World NYC.
Given what we saw of the newspaper before Hiro teleported back to the subway in Tokyo, that seems to be the case.
QUOTE (Master Xander @ Oct 3 2006, 10:58 AM)

I'm curious to see how Hiro's powers develop. Can he only travel through space if he travels forward in time?
No, his teleporting to the women's bathroom showed he can teleport without time traveling.
Jonno
Oct 3 2006, 08:26 AM
QUOTE (Broken Shakespeare @ Oct 3 2006, 01:06 PM)

Perhaps it was Sylar the human bomb (among other powers) and he was upset that he had just lost the election to Nathan.
Has anyone seen the animated Japanese film Akira? Someone with enhanced mental powers loses control of them which results in a nuke-like explosion. I wonder if it could be something like that?
Viper
Oct 3 2006, 09:16 AM
That would seem right, that it could of took Hiro to jump to the women's restroom seconds or a minute or two cause it was right there. New York was on the other side of the planet, it would be reasonble that it took Hiro 5 weeks to complete the jump to the big apple. I'm thinking that when Hiro's ability growns and he gets more control it would take him just seconds to get to New York and not 5 weeks.
Danielle
Oct 3 2006, 09:37 AM
It seems that Hiro's powers are going to growing each episode.
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